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To: Osage Orange

Hi Osage,

Yes, I am OK with baptism for the dead.

We believe sacrifice of Jesus Christ is universal in its effect and applies to the living and the dead.

Those who don’t get the chance to hear the gospel in this life will hear it in the next world and will have the opportunity for baptism through baptisms for the dead.

I think it is very fair and in keeping with the merciful and just character of God.

Best regards,

Normandy


312 posted on 08/31/2010 4:45:15 PM PDT by Normandy
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To: Normandy
But it makes Jesus Christ's sacrifice worthless!!

It makes many scriptures meaningless also.

That's blasphemy, FRiend. And you and your religion is horribly deceived.

May you see the light, before your end.

314 posted on 08/31/2010 5:04:46 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Obama's heart is blacker than the Devils riding boots..........)
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To: Normandy; Osage Orange
We believe sacrifice of Jesus Christ is universal in its effect and applies to the living and the dead. Those who don’t get the chance to hear the gospel in this life will hear it in the next world and will have the opportunity for baptism through baptisms for the dead.

They will? You mean to tell me the Lds church has a list of everybody's who's ever lived? Birth records?

C'mon, Normandy, the Lds church can't even tell you everybody who's alive on the planet now -- even 100 years from now, they won't be able to name even close to all those who lived in the year 2010 on Planet Earth.

Yet, you say proxy baptism is universal (or will be).

Have you done the math, Normandy? Let's go with a young earth math theory for the moment -- that the earth is only 6,000 years old.
#1 A few experts have concluded that if this is the case, we may have had still 30-60 billion people who have ever lived on the earth.
#2, Now, if the Earth suffers few major catastrophes over the next almost 1,000 years, how many people could the earth have by the year 3,000? (One estimate from WikiAnswers suggests 80-110 billion). http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_will_there_be_in_the_year_3000
#3 Now, toss in perhaps another 400-450 billion people who will have lived and died in the year 2000, 2100, 2200, etc. before the year 3,000 comes upon us.

My point? By the year 3,000 Mormons may have to smoke their computer genealogical war machine room to accommodate 500-600 billion plus people who lived from 4,000 B.C. to 3,000 A.D.

So give us the math breakdown, Normandy. Tell us. How many proxy baptisms will the average Mormon teen-ager have to perform in the temple over the next 13 generations (keep in mind the exact % of Mormon teens even involved in this process) to crank up the Mormon necro-baptism number to an eventual 500-600 billion?

You see, this is what happens when you let incredulity rule even basic logic. Mormons are "sold" on the "fairness" & "Justness" & "equality" argument that the door is (or eventually will be) "open" to "all."

But when you start asking them to define "all," they slouch away.
By "all," do you mean the pre-Gutenberg billions? (Uh...)
By "all," do you mean the "no records exist" for those who lived in the teen A.D. centuries? (Uh...)
By "all," do you mean the lack of worldwide temples & manpower mandated to even meet the current Lds fastfood Necro baptism machine need? (Never mind that no matter how many volunteers they grind up in their computer appetite clamoring for "More food...More food," it'll never ever catch up)

So, tell us Normandy your "math formula" for necro-baptizing the billions and billions and billions of known people ... never even mind the 30-60 billion who have already lived & whom you can't find any extant records for!

323 posted on 08/31/2010 6:41:44 PM PDT by Colofornian (=)
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To: Normandy

Those who don’t get the chance to hear the gospel in this life will hear it in the next world and will have the opportunity for baptism through baptisms for the dead.
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Norm how does that work ???

I’ve asked several times but never have got amn answerr...

Have any of your mormon friends ever been on a mission to the afterlife to knock on the doors there ???


330 posted on 08/31/2010 7:26:25 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Normandy; Osage Orange
Those who don’t get the chance to hear the gospel in this life will hear it in the next world and will have the opportunity for baptism through baptisms for the dead.

Which doctrine to believe. BOM states very clearly otherwise

ALMA 34:32: “For behold, this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of this life is the day for men to perform their labors.”

Is the god of mormonism having trouble making up his mind? Could be problems with all the wives and their input.

339 posted on 08/31/2010 9:42:41 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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