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As a recently retired federal employee, I appreciate the comments made in this article. Particularly important is the distinction between federal employees and state/local workers.
1 posted on 08/30/2010 6:15:40 AM PDT by Poundstone
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Miss Cleo says you will have an unhappy reaction to something you say today.


2 posted on 08/30/2010 6:17:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Hey federal employees, stop doing things that make you so easy to ‘bash’ and/or stand up to your fellow federal employees that do!


3 posted on 08/30/2010 6:18:00 AM PDT by mnehring
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There are some tremendously dedicated, talented and skilled workers at all levels of government.

There are just too damn many of them.

4 posted on 08/30/2010 6:18:44 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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No offense meant, but there are too damn many sucking at the public teat. Government spending is dragging down the productive class. Why is it off base to comment on this? And how exactly will government waste and spending be cut without reducing government employee salaries and benefits, or eliminating them from the payroll entirely?


5 posted on 08/30/2010 6:20:13 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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In the process of defending public employees the author makes a pretty good case for not being one.


7 posted on 08/30/2010 6:21:51 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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Hey Rush, Hannity: Stop bashing federal employees

Yeah, and while you're at it, quit bash those in public housing like Obama, poor guy.

8 posted on 08/30/2010 6:23:17 AM PDT by Jim W N
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Nothing wrong with federal employees ... just the “public-sector” unions. I want to abolish them.


9 posted on 08/30/2010 6:23:20 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (BP was founder of Cap & Trade Lobby and is linked to John Podesta, The Apollo Alliance and Obama)
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You pays your money and you takes your chances.
10 posted on 08/30/2010 6:23:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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Private sector employees have a right to dislike and disrespect public sector employees. We actually accomplish something while they collect pay checks and accomplish nothing of substance.


11 posted on 08/30/2010 6:23:55 AM PDT by albie
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I live in VA, the federal worker capital of the world and I can tell you that 75% of federal workers wouldn’t last 10 minutes in the real world. They are worse than useless, they are users and takers who contribute nothing. State workewrs are just as bad. I think that about 25% seek federal jobs because they’re motivated to serve their country in some capacity but the vast majority are looking for an easy way out and unwarranted job security.


12 posted on 08/30/2010 6:24:02 AM PDT by pgkdan (When the same man...holds the sword and the purse, there is an end of liberty: George Mason)
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Where are the direct quotes of Rush or Hannity bashing federal employees?


13 posted on 08/30/2010 6:24:21 AM PDT by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government,)
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interesting to note how many of this type of article start out with “...i’m offended...”.

isn’t that really saying, “...what’s most important here is ME!”


14 posted on 08/30/2010 6:25:15 AM PDT by mreerm
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I understand both sides of this argument. I do think the number of employees and the benefits should be reduced to match the private sector, but not in one fell swoop.

I’ll also say that it is MUCH harder to get into the government than people think. I’ve admittedly applied for several Federal jobs, and the requirements are ridiculous to where anyone who has worked in the private sector their entire life doesn’t generally have the regulatory type experience the gov’t needs.


15 posted on 08/30/2010 6:25:22 AM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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federal government employees in 2008 earn an average of $67,691 compared to $60,046 in the private sector. This doesn’t count the benefits all federal government employees enjoy

Get your egos out of the way and stop trying to defend the indefensible.

It is completely disingenuous and dishonest to try and measure pay without adding in the benefits. Fed Workers are some of the worlds best cared for employees.

Sorry a lie by omission is still a lie.

17 posted on 08/30/2010 6:26:05 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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Federal Employees Continue to Prosper
21 posted on 08/30/2010 6:27:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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I was a federal employee for six years in the USAF and I’m not at all offended by what they say. But then I only made $238.00 every two weeks.


22 posted on 08/30/2010 6:28:44 AM PDT by USAF70 (America is not 'governed' by the President or Congress. America is governed by the U.S.Constitution.)
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My own experience as a government contractor for 14 years, permitting me to see what was happening up-close and personal, while still looking from the outside in is:

- Some federal employees are good and competent, even conscientious.

- Many federal employees aren’t good or competent, and many are little more than thieves.

- Even many of the good, competent and conscientious workers are put to work doing things which either add no value to our society as a whole, or actually detract therefrom.

- The basic problem isn’t so much the workers as it is the illegitimate scope of the federal government.

- If you knew who to axe, you could eliminate 50% of federal workers and probably see a rise in overall productivity of the government as a whole.

- If you eliminated the bad, incompetent and morally-corrupt AND eliminated even only the most egregiously destructive parts of the federal government, you could reduce the head count by 70% or more.

- It really wouldn’t matter that much, as even if you eliminated the entire civilian workforce (while still magically “accomplishing” all the government currently does), you’d reduce federal spending by only about 10%.


23 posted on 08/30/2010 6:30:45 AM PDT by sitetest ( If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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What probably offends most private sector workers is that their taxes pay for the sometimes higher salaries of government workers. They forget that federal employees pay taxes too, so the direct cost to the government is reduced.

This is stupid. Without the private sector money paying the initial salary, there is no income to be taxed. You cannot hire an infinite number of government employees and say you're reducing costs.

26 posted on 08/30/2010 6:30:56 AM PDT by edpc (Ruck Famadan)
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Seems the author can not bring himself to use the U-WORD, but rather calls them organizations.

...and his organizations aren't allowed to strike.

27 posted on 08/30/2010 6:31:41 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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As a former federal employee myself, there is much to criticize about the federal government and federal employees.

But I am not saying that ALL federal employees are bad. They are not all bad.

The ones that are are typically the mindless paper pushing tenured bureaucrattx leaders with a sense of entitlement. It is in fact the massive government bureaucracy that is part and parcel the chief factor behind most of America’s problems. Returning power and restoring states rights would end federal bureaucracies and at the same time return much freedom and individual liberty to the people as well.

The more massive a bureaucracy becomes such as the federal government, the more waste fraud and abuse are able to find a home there...and thrive.


28 posted on 08/30/2010 6:31:55 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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