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To The Tea Party (And Related Organizations) [Major BARF Alert - JimRob]
Market Ticker ^ | 29 August 2010 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 08/29/2010 9:24:21 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Lorianne

I agree with this completely. However, too many believe that the govt. is controlled by the social beliefs of politicians. At this point in our country’s history we really need to focus on fiscal policy, the Constitution and freedom.


141 posted on 08/30/2010 3:47:45 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Let the cowards who are afraid of abortion and homosexual marriage come our way and hold their noses to vote for our candidates. They always want us to compromise our morals so they can say they are Conservatives, but not like those intolerant Conservatives. Basically cowards afraid to take a stand. Those are the ones who need to be thrown out cause they compromise everything else too.

Pray for America


142 posted on 08/30/2010 4:42:43 AM PDT by bray (A fun read: http://www.brayincandy.com/id239.html)
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To: Lorianne
This Country and our Constitution will not stand without God and the Judeo/Christian values.

Our founding fathers even admitted this.

This article is just another piece of leftist claptrap designed to get conservatives to shut up before they do create a tidal wave and return our Country to it greatness.

143 posted on 08/30/2010 5:08:22 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Ducking issues by just ignoring them because you’re afraid it will mess up your ‘unity’ - well, then there wasn’t much ‘unity’ there in the first place.

The Tea Party would be better off then if it just focused on one or two related issues as an advocacy group, like for people just focused on cutting all non-essential government spending and waste.”

I don’t advocate ‘ducking’ issues. I see this as almost life or death for this country and we must take it a step at a time.

First we must get that progressive liberal congress quashed. I am sure you have noticed that in spite of public uproar indicated by the polls, the MAJORITY of the ‘people’ (conservatives, independents, et al) are against the health care bill, bail outs, illegal immigration, trying terrorist in civilian courts, the ground zero mosque,..... ad infinitum.

Public opinion has no effect on the progressive liberal...they know what is good for us and they know where they want to take us. And we are going to go there whether we like it or not.

THAT trend at this time is the most important factor. We have to stop this train.

Everyone has a right to practice their choice of religion and people have a choice not to practice or not to believe.

Too many so called Christians preach just another form of hate. Too many are of the mind set that they know what is best and what is good for you. Too many rant and rave about hell and damnation. That type of Christianity does not engender a true spiritual belief in Christ. That is not the way of Christ.

To engender a deep spiritual change in the liberal progressive (the narcissistic, self loving persona) the above approach will NEVER work.

We must work against big government. We must work to effect a more ethical, moral society by example, not by ranting. We must use the constitution as our strength and imprimatur...not any specific religion.

We can individually live our lives according to the tenets of our individual faith, using the wonder of that faith and love to influence the lost....not mandates or ravings.

Otherwise we will lose this nation.


144 posted on 08/30/2010 6:23:17 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Lorianne
"You cannot effect any change on social issues if you don’t WIN."

And if you win with a bunch of lilly-livered RINOs and Losertarians, who don't have the backbone to take up social change, what have you gained? Nothing.

Better to show the nation you have guts. To paraphrase one of the best lines in Braveheart, "people don't follow nobility, they follow courage."

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

145 posted on 08/30/2010 6:46:38 AM PDT by wku man (Steel yourselves, patriots, and be ready. Won't be long now....)
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To: Dudoight
We must work against big government. We must work to effect a more ethical, moral society by example, not by ranting. We must use the constitution as our strength and imprimatur...not any specific religion.

Exactly right. Too many people on this thread are obsessed with attacking symptoms. The cancer is the unrestrained growth of government power - until it is stopped cold, these other symptoms cant even be treated. Denninger is exactly right - running against corruption means running not only against Obama, but the McCains and Murkowskis and all of their ruling class ilk which have almost completely taken over the Republican Party. The Tea Party has a chance to become a genuine second party (we're not even talking about a third party, yet) but only if they stay focused on the only issues that matter - limiting government power and ending corruption.

146 posted on 08/30/2010 6:59:36 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Lorianne

Why bother to vote, then, if our candidate is the same as theirs?


147 posted on 08/30/2010 7:04:04 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Denninger supported Obama,...

Can you point me to a source please?

148 posted on 08/30/2010 7:05:45 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Lorianne

I agree regarding the TEA movement.

The GOP would do well not to drop social issues, but as far as getting elected this year and 2012: “It’s the Economy Stupid!”


149 posted on 08/30/2010 7:10:35 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Congressmen should serve two terms: One in Congress and one in prison.)
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To: Jim Robinson
If we give up the fight for any of our unalienable rights, America is no more. Our rights are granted by God, not government, and the purpose of the Tea party movement is to preserve, protect and defend these rights for ourselves and our posterity. And who are we defending them from? The government. And the sleazy politicians who would like us to not defend them so it would make it easier for them to get elected. No thanks. A man who cannot or will not defend our unalienable rights — ALL of them — does not deserve our support and should NOT be elected.

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Excellent post.

150 posted on 08/30/2010 7:12:01 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bump.


151 posted on 08/30/2010 7:15:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in atheists. And nihilists are nothing to me.)
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To: MileHi

Review his comments to the TickerForum from 2007 - 2008 is all I can suggest.


152 posted on 08/30/2010 7:37:24 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Agreed! We have got to be smart, not emotional.


153 posted on 08/30/2010 7:45:38 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Without social conservatives, the Republican will lose by default.

BINGO.

154 posted on 08/30/2010 7:53:55 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: Lorianne

This becomes much less of an issue if you close the primaries. Allowing independents or crossover voters to chose your candidate is about as smart as shipping a million U.S. ballots to China and asking them to fill them out. Dilute the conservative votes, get diluted candidates.


155 posted on 08/30/2010 7:55:03 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Kimberly GG

Would you rather be right or successful?


156 posted on 08/30/2010 7:55:08 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Playing by the rules only works if both sides do it!)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Denninger supported Obama

Ah. In other words, then: no more worth being taken seriously by rational, intelligent adults than (say) Markos Moulitsas, or Arianna Huffington. Gotcha. ;)

157 posted on 08/30/2010 7:57:40 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: roses of sharon
The comments at Denninger’s are vile...they REALLY hate Christians, Southerners, and conservatives, at his site.

You just saved me however much time and effort it would have taken to slog through the standard issue leftard yipping and frothing myself, then. Thank you. ;)

158 posted on 08/30/2010 8:01:54 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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To: mad_as_he$$; Kimberly GG
Would you rather be right or successful?

"What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?" - Jesus Christ

"Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God." -- George Washington


159 posted on 08/30/2010 8:09:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (I don't believe in atheists. And nihilists are nothing to me.)
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To: Jim Robinson
We’re not interested in electing more RINOs!! RINOs are the enemy!!

Bless you, Jim!!!


160 posted on 08/30/2010 8:18:16 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (http://www.conservatives4palin.com/)
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