Is there an aerial shot of Sharlaton’s get-together?
I was watching the CBS Evening News and they said that attendance was estimated at 87000.
I’m not sure how they arrived at the number - but given it was a prediction made by the MSM, they definitely lowballed the actual figure by 100,000 - minimum.
“NBC News said”
As if anyone is going to believe them...
Sorry, but I do not and will not listen to the religious exhortations of someone who worships a false god.
GVNana, I apologize for my late arrival to this thread, and further I apologize for this post, which will continue to derail a “size of the crowd” thread, but perhaps you won’t mind? Feel free to derail me in the future—I won’t mind.
To all—I have been reading with complete fascination the various comments related to mormonism vs. Christianity, and one thing stands out as something everyone shares and that is a passion for doing right by God. Wow!! That is a beautiful thing!! I can’t tell you how many times I have posted at FR that America needs to turn to God only to be “redirected” back to the economy or liberals or whatever...not God...we don’t want to talk about that!!! But today, on this thread, it’s ALL ABOUT GOD!!! I love it!
Could it be that on this thread we are treating two different concepts as only one concept?
Concept one: “the Body of Christ” specifically, who is in and who is out.
Concept two: “one nation under God” specifically, how do we refine and reinforce monotheism, and who is best to help shape that process.
Regarding concept one: that will not be solved without opening the Bible and seeing only what God says. It would seem that that type of Bible study would be best done as a forum.
Regarding concept two: This is where Glenn Beck was Saturday. Perhaps we can set Mr. Beck aside for a moment, and consult God’s own words on the subject.
Acts 17: 24-29 Time: A.D. Roman Government, Place: Athens, Speaker: Paul by inspiration from God, Religion being addressed: polytheism.
For convenience sake, here is the passage from NKJV:
24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising.
Verses 26-27 are key related to out nation. We are a nation whose founding documents allow an individual the freedom to “seek” “grope” and “find” God without interference from government. Our founding documents recognize the universal truth that God wishes people to have freedom to do this. That is why our form of government was called an “experiment” because it sought to do what no other before had done— it put man under God, not man under man.
NOW TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY: (for those of us who still believe the founding fathers got it right.)
The question seems to be...
How do we grow our Republic to a more positive future, while not compromising the original beginning and intent?
For years this has been attempted by expanding on the idea of “liberty.” This has brought us Roe vs. Wade and Prop 8, among other things.
The rub comes in when we start to see expanding on liberty without basing the expansion on universal truths thus causes governing difficulties. Example: Abortion. Think Cain and Abel. From the beginning life was sacred. Why? God put His own breath in the human— not the dog, bird, or frog — into the human. This is a UNIVERSAL TRUTH.
It is my thinking (opinion) that for this republic to move forward while still remaining “under God” we must first KNOW and then have the FORTITUDE to AFFIRM IN GOVERNMENT the universal truths of God. Then-— we CAN productively expand on the freedoms granted by God under the umbrella of Universal Truths.
What are some other Universal Truths? I have already mentioned the sacred nature of life. Would you all be interested in furthering this thought?