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US golf clubs in the rough as members drop away
Associated Press ^ | Saturday, August 21, 2010 | JIM FITZGERALD

Posted on 08/21/2010 11:28:16 AM PDT by Willie Green

MAMARONECK, N.Y. — A few weeds have popped up on the fairways, and summer's heat has scorched the grass here and there, but the golf course at the Hampshire Country Club is still tidy and scenic, its little waterfall still burbling through the rocks.

Not that there's anyone around to notice. The Hampshire's 18-hole course on Long Island Sound, along with its tennis courts, pool and restaurant, is closed this year. Members cited rising costs upwards of $25,000 a year for a membership as the roster fell from several hundred at its peak to about 100.

"There was a lot of talk last year about the increasing costs, people not sure what they could pay, the assessments always going up," said Barbara Mines, a member for 15 years who lives in a house on the Hampshire course. "I wasn't really surprised when it closed."

The same thing has happened in recent years at hundreds of other courses nationwide — even in the golf meccas of Florida, Arizona and California — as the economic meltdown and changes in family dynamics combine to threaten club life. Whether it's a $45,000 initiation fee for a private club or a $5 increase in the cost of a round at a public course, the price of a golf habit is giving some duffers pause.

"It's definitely connected to the economic conditions and the ability of potential private club members to pay the fairly significant initiation fees and annual dues," said Jay Mottola, executive director of the Metropolitan Golf Association, representing 120,000 golfers and 500 golf courses in the New York region.

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To: mc5cents

It would appear his ball is just off the green and he’s carrying one club to chip with and his putter. I do it all the time (especially since I’m not doing well hitting greens lately...).


21 posted on 08/21/2010 11:51:53 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Willie Green

“even in the golf meccas of Florida, Arizona and California...”

Don’t say “Meccas.”
That’s racist.


22 posted on 08/21/2010 11:53:25 AM PDT by RazzPutin ("You have told us more than you can possibly know." -- Niels Bohr)
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To: Willie Green
The reduction in rounds played goes back about 15 years. I had a client in the golf turf maintenance business in the last 1990s. They were lamenting the fact that the number of rounds played had dropped and that golf courses were spending less on fertilizers and herbicides. Job losses made it all the worse.

As the article states, five hours to play a round of golf doesn't fit with today's lifestyles.

23 posted on 08/21/2010 11:54:52 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Willie Green
The reduction in rounds played goes back about 15 years. I had a client in the golf turf maintenance business in the last 1990s. They were lamenting the fact that the number of rounds played had dropped and that golf courses were spending less on fertilizers and herbicides. Job losses made it all the worse.

As the article states, five hours to play a round of golf doesn't fit with today's lifestyles.

24 posted on 08/21/2010 11:55:00 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Willie Green

Seems like all those dormant golf courses, with all that open space and all those holes, could profitably be turned into prairie dog shooting ranges.


25 posted on 08/21/2010 11:59:57 AM PDT by zipper
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To: bwc2221

Today’s lack of lifestyle?

Here in Central Florida supposedly a Golf Mecca I can’t find driving ranges and the country clubs have $5000 initiation fees and I think its about $430 a month for a membership. I would say they are doing fine since they are not sending me coupons.


27 posted on 08/21/2010 12:00:43 PM PDT by omega4179 (JD Hayworth)
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To: ZOOKER

This article says golf courses are closing, and another I read said restaurants were going out of business.

I wonder if there is some connection, I wonder what it could be? Hmmmmmmmmmm


28 posted on 08/21/2010 12:02:43 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: ken5050

Sorry to hear that you don’t enjoy it anymore. I never caught the bug myself, so I won’t miss it.


29 posted on 08/21/2010 12:04:29 PM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: zipper
Seems like all those dormant golf courses, with all that open space and all those holes, could profitably be turned into prairie dog shooting ranges.

I was thinking that some of those fairways would make a very scenic right-of-way for the local mass transit system. Maybe put out some picnic tables and a few barbecue pits around the other holes, it would make a nice place for urban families to go on a outing. Maybe let the family dog run loose for a while as well!

30 posted on 08/21/2010 12:07:15 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: ZOOKER

I enjoy the game....but don’t miss my old club back north..and I’m also happily training for my first triathlon..I’ve found a “new” water hazzard..LOL


31 posted on 08/21/2010 12:07:16 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: zipper

Nope, The vacant courses will be bought up by developers for pennies and low cost housing will be built. Thought you were gonna’ have that golf course view forever? Think again.....


32 posted on 08/21/2010 12:08:23 PM PDT by colinhester
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To: Willie Green

Recreation? There’s no time for recreation. Work hard, generate money for taxes so that we may feed Obama’s unions, bureaucrats, and welfare queens.

Better get working.


33 posted on 08/21/2010 12:10:58 PM PDT by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: bcsco

Well, that was my comment. If you have a caddy, you walk over, access the situation and then ask for a club. The caddy may or may not help with the decision.


34 posted on 08/21/2010 12:13:08 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure
You forgot to mention Obama’s taste for expensive vacations for he, his family, and their entourage.
35 posted on 08/21/2010 12:18:05 PM PDT by All Blue State
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To: bcsco
Now, excuse me. This weekend's tournament is on...

Uh...I think they were talking about playing golf, not watching it on the tube. Golf is a great participation sport which one can enjoy virtually his whole life. I knew a guy who shot an 80 on his eightieth birthday. You'd a thought he'd died and gone to heaven already.

The cost and the time it takes to play are becoming too precious for the regular duffer. As for people who have been paying a 25K per year membership fee, who knows what their problem is.

36 posted on 08/21/2010 12:19:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bwc2221

Many, many golfers have migrated to the shooting sports especially Sporting Clays. I am one of them. The cost to golf in time and cash has simply become too much to continue.

I highly recommend Sporting Clays and Trap and Skeet to my friends who have decide to play fewer or no rounds this year.

If cost is a concern, you can reload for much less money than retail. It is safe and quite easy to do. I reload for about .14 cents per round. The retail cost (a very big round) is 2.00 to 4.00 per round. This is representative of reloading overall.

At our local range, and I think this is true of most ranges, the ticket you buy in the morning is good for all day. You can shoot in the morning, go home and do the lawn, take the wife shopping, deliver the kids to the ball park, and on the way home get in another hour or so of shooting and then go pick up the kids. Runs about ten bucks a day and you don’t have to listen to a hostess drone on for 45 minutes about golf etiquette and how to play the holes.

Shooting sports are ideal for the modern fast paced lifestyle.


37 posted on 08/21/2010 12:20:37 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: zipper

Many of them will become commercial property. Hotels and strip malls.


38 posted on 08/21/2010 12:21:40 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: colinhester

“Nope, The vacant courses will be bought up by developers for pennies and low cost housing will be built. Thought you were gonna’ have that golf course view forever? Think again.....”

This is happening all over the US. The golf course is actually commercial property and can be redeveloped for any commercial use. One of the subdivision golf courses in Houston is being redeveloped into a convention center and a boutique shopping mall. This is what is beginning to happen all over.

I tell my clients (I am a realtor) to not buy into the golf course subdivisions as there is a very good chance that their back yard will be looking out on a parking lot and a strip mall in the future. Some take the advice seriously, some do not.

Golf is losing a lot of players through retirement and through economics. The boom days of golf appear to have ended.


39 posted on 08/21/2010 12:29:18 PM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: bcsco

I think his “ball is always landing off the green!”


40 posted on 08/21/2010 12:29:20 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Mike Mathis is my name,opinions are my own,subject to flaming when deserved!)
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