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MILITARY: Final Trial in Iraq Killings to Unfold
North County Times ^ | August 20, 2010 | Mark Walker

Posted on 08/21/2010 8:32:45 AM PDT by Lancey Howard

Nearly five years after 24 Iraqi men, women and children were slain by a Camp Pendleton squad as it searched for a roadside bomber, the last man to face criminal charges from the incident is about to go on trial.

U.S. Marine Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, who told an investigator that he had directed his men to "shoot first and deal with it later," is due in a base courtroom next week as attorneys argue final motions in advance of his long-awaited trial.

A Connecticut native, Wuterich, 30, has pleaded not guilty to nine counts of voluntary manslaughter and related offenses arising out of the killings, which took place in the city of Haditha on Nov. 19, 2005.

"These past five years have been a long five years," Wuterich said earlier this year. "It's tough being the last guy going through this, but I'm confident everything will turn out how it should."

Wuterich's charges carry a maximum punishment of 160 years.

Seven others accused of wrongdoing at Haditha saw their charges dismissed or withdrawn by prosecutors.

(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: haditha; usmilitary; wuterich
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1 posted on 08/21/2010 8:32:47 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; 4woodenboats; Grimmy; xzins; smoothsailing; lilycicero; bigheadfred; ..

(( ping ))

The Mark Walker version.
He goes back to the Gary Solis well. To Solis, Wuterich and the rest of the Haditha heroes are nothing more than pawns in an academic exercise.


2 posted on 08/21/2010 8:40:02 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I will be watching this as best as I can. You can bet that if the Marine wins the msm won’t say a word!


3 posted on 08/21/2010 9:47:00 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo
Mark Walker, clueless to the end...

For all those interested in some reality-based reporting written by someone far more knowledgeable and gifted than Walker, see......

SSGT WUTERICH AND THE BLAGOJEVICH FIASCO

(Hat Tip to jazusamo and DOM)

4 posted on 08/21/2010 9:51:56 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Lancey Howard; smoothsailing
Puckett has maintained from the outset that while the deaths at Haditha are regrettable, they were a consequence of a legitimate response to being attacked and nothing like Murtha's characterization.

That pretty much says it all.

But for the pathetic and biased reporting by Tim McGirk of TIME and the outrageous remarks by John Murtha on worldwide TV this incident would have been a sad one but not a criminal one.

Six Marines had the charges dropped against them and a seventh was found not guilty of all charges in a courts-martial. That should make it very clear there was no wrong doing on the Marines part despite the rantings of Murtha and McGirk.

Thanks for linking Nat Helms' latest article, Smooth, he doesn't interview Gary Solis and take his opinions as gospel.

5 posted on 08/21/2010 10:08:47 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
I wrote a screenplay based on the eye-witness accounts and one-on-one interviews with some of the Marines involved. I also was given access to priveleged material. The film will never be made (I knew that going in but it was worth six months of my time to get it right).

Anybody who wants to read it let me know via freep-mail and we'll arrange it.

6 posted on 08/21/2010 10:12:37 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Jim Robinson

JimRob...the offer in post #6 applies to you too.


7 posted on 08/21/2010 10:14:33 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Lancey Howard
More than three dozen people are on the witness list, including several of the Marines who were charged but later cleared.

No Iraqis are scheduled to testify in person, but the government is expected to show videotaped interviews with surviving family members of some of those killed.

Prosecutors will introduce numerous photographs of the victims, and a government pathologist is expected to provide an interpretation of how their wounds were administered.

Wuterich probably will not testify, Puckett said.

Instead, the defense will make its case through cross-examining the prosecution's witnesses and a small number of defense witnesses, he said

How is the defense supposed to cross examine a video?

When in the almost 5 years that has passed has SSargent Wuterich's legal team have had an opportunity to do their own forensics?

Where are the prosecution's forensics?

Can they prove any of the "victims" were killed by Frank, or for that matter any Marine?

All they got is seven time loser Sullivan standing by himself muttering "I see dead people"

Walker's walking the wild tale trail agin with his "They were a bunch of crazies they were, looking for one man to question, yeah, that's it, no one in our Ediot board can figger what set them off on that beautiful day in that oh so peaceful town" /s

8 posted on 08/21/2010 10:16:41 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (Defend America peacefully, vigorously, and swiftly against all enemies before she becomes a memory)
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bump!


9 posted on 08/21/2010 10:19:30 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: jazusamo; Lancey Howard; smoothsailing
Exactly Jaz.

What Mark Walker and every other MSM reporter omits in their reporting is that Haditha on 11/19/2005 was under a CITY WIDE ATTACK, not just the one incident at Chestnut and Viper.

FYI - Final motion hearings are next week Thurs and Fri 8/26 and 8/27 at Camp Pendleton

10 posted on 08/21/2010 10:38:26 AM PDT by Saoirise (Sgt Larry Hutchins is a Free Man!!!! Keep it that way!)
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To: jazusamo; smoothsailing; Lancey Howard; 4woodenboats

Well said, jaz. Gary Solis asks, “When does lawful combat turn into murder. This case will go far in answering that question.”

Gary Solis needs to read the charges. There is no murder charge against SSgt Wuterich. The worst charge preferred againts Wuterich is voluntary manslaughter and even that was way beyond anything the presiding judge over the Article 32 recommended.

According to the article, bringing charges in this incident was the defining point in how/why we have our current ROE’s. That’s really working well, isn’t it? Hopefully the jurors keep this in mind when deciding Frank’s fate.

160 years???!!!! For what? Because the Marine Corps wants to send a message? Because the prosecutors want to prove they didn’t really waste all this time, money, and effort on an incident that, while regrettable, was within the ROE’s at the time? Because the convening authorities involved don’t want to admit they might be guilty of UCI?


11 posted on 08/21/2010 10:44:11 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Saoirise

Glad you brought up the CITY WIDE ATTACK, it’s seldom mentioned and puts a more realistic picture on the day this took place.

Thanks for posting the final motion dates.


12 posted on 08/21/2010 10:54:06 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: 4woodenboats
All they got is seven time loser Sullivan standing by himself muttering "I see dead people"

4wb, you do have a way with words. I imagine Lt Col Sean Sullivan is still smarting from Judge Folsom's issuing the appearance of UCI findings in Chessani's case, then cutting him off AFTER telling him to sit down.

Sullivan is looking for any kind of win at this point. Hopefully, his immunized witnesses with their ever-changing memories will be as unbelievable as they were during the article 32.
13 posted on 08/21/2010 11:05:21 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Lancey Howard

Mark Walker started out doing fair reporting on the Haditha cases but I guess hanging out with Gary Solis and his ilk rubbed the stink onto him. Prayers up for a fair and just result in the case - AKA “not guilty”! (as we all have known since day 1)


14 posted on 08/21/2010 11:22:25 AM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: Lancey Howard; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...
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HADITHA MARINE PING!

15 posted on 08/21/2010 12:22:34 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; Lancey Howard; Girlene; Saoirise; All
Photobucket

Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich, with his daughter, Talia, in their home at Camp Pendleton, California, September 5th, 2006

Jaz,I found this and a few other pictures I hadn't seen before at the link below. The narrative that accompanies the pictures is interesting as are some of the comments. You'll probably be as surprised as I was by who was employing the photographer.

http://www.msgphoto.com/latestshot/2008/06/25/everyone-cleared-except-frank-wuterich/

16 posted on 08/21/2010 2:27:49 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Girlene
....Sullivan is still smarting from Judge Folsom's issuing the appearance of UCI findings in Chessani's case, then cutting him off AFTER telling him to sit down.

Ha! I had forgotten that. THAT was a Very Good Day (~;

17 posted on 08/21/2010 2:57:55 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Defend America peacefully, vigorously, and swiftly against all enemies before she becomes a memory)
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To: smoothsailing

Good pictures. A couple of the comments at the bottom of that site are amazing.


18 posted on 08/21/2010 5:40:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard; jazusamo; smoothsailing
""It's tough being the last guy going through this, but I'm confident everything will turn out how it should."
Yes. And that is they find him not guilty on all charges.
19 posted on 08/21/2010 8:18:10 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: smoothsailing; Marine Mom

Frank Wuterich is an American hero. He is a man who will stand and be counted. When his country called, he shouted his reply. S/Sgt Frank Wuterich is a United States Marine.

On 19 November 2005, S/Sgt Frank Wuterich led his 3rd squad- 3/1 Kilo Company Marines on a re-supply mission in Haditha, Iraq. The fourth Humvee in the convoy was hit by an IED. One Marine was killed, two others were severely wounded. The Marines were taking small arms fire from various locations around their position. S/Sgt Wuterich and his remaining Marines tended the wounded, secured defensive positions, called for assistance and returned fire against hostile insurgents. Wuterich and his comrades followed the ROE, implemented their training and survived this firefight in Haditha.

My Family and I have been praying for Frank and his family. Our thoughts have always been with them. Our strength has become their strength. Rosemarie and David, we know your pain. Soon, it will be gone. Your son is a hero, and the American people will not let their heroes down. When you enter the courtroom on 13th September, thousands of Freepers, thousands of Americans will give you strength. Frank is a good man, a good Marine, and God will not let him down. Our prayers are with you. Semper Fi Marine mom.

God Bless Our Haditha Marines

Darryl, Theresa, Jaclyn, Justin


20 posted on 08/21/2010 8:42:39 PM PDT by darrylsharratt
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