Posted on 08/18/2010 11:50:53 AM PDT by suprise_me
Thanks for the additional info....if you post more on the Ill senate race...kindly ping me..indeed..you should blog it here on FR
Stated perfectly!
Hmm he’s been lying for quite some time hasn’t he!
That was one major posting, and now I know what you mean by “The Combine.”
As for “Combiner Republicans who spent from spring until fall ripping Salvi to shreds,” Salvi largely engineered his own defeat. He actually claimed, without any evidence, that Jim Brady had sold machine guns. Even if Salvi had Combiner Republican support, it wouldn’t have been enough after that gaffe. I believe that many establishment conservatives are weary of outsiders because of gaffe fear.
Long, yes, but incredibly insightful. And depressing.
I’ll add my congratulations to your well stated replies.
Now, tell me the difference in now and when you were getting all those posts deleted by the moderator? You made basically the same points.
Anyway, well done friend.
Gaffes are made frequently by all types of candidates. It’s the exposure that they get. Zero says “57 states” and the media ignores it and it’s swiftly forgotten. Dan Quayle does “potatoe” and George Allen “macaca” and it is never forgotten. The Salvi gaffe was just a convenient excuse for the Combine. Ditto using Ambassador Keyes as cannon fodder for Zero in 2004.
Sadly, Illinois is not the only state with a similar situation, only that is amongst the most blatant and has had the most far-reaching damage to the nation at large (to have allowed someone like Zero to have rose to power).
In the nuked posts, I was calling out those two trolls. Of course, if they show their heads in this thread, they’ll fall right back on their talking points.
He's not foaming at the mouth like he was yesterday, thats one thing.
How did all of you in illinois allow it to get this bad? Granted AZ isn’t much better right now with everyone rallying around McCain to get him re-elected, but we are nowhere near what Illinois has become.
It’s not something that happened overnight, it’s been decades in the making. Unfortunately, corruption in Chicago politics is almost as American as apple pie, and it spread outward from there. Once people get in power, it’s often hard to blast them loose if they don’t have good ethics and morals to begin with, and if those aren’t present, they can pretty much do as they please. What makes it that much worse is that a lot of people go in with a reformist mindset, and much like with what we see with DC politicos, they soon end up becoming a part of the problem.
You could institute term limits, but that’s not necessarily really a definitive solution, as it comes with its own downsides. Getting the grassroots people involved to try to weed out the bad on our side is another, but even that isn’t entirely enough, since we’re up against a gargantuan machine that has the power (via elected officials, judges, the state parties), the money, and the means (via threats, harrassment, intimidation) to use both to their own ends to defeat those whom would try to remove them. They fix the game and we’re often left with nothing but to pound sand, willfully leaving us with the sense of frustration that will cause us good “reformist” folks to stay out of politics entirely, and it often works. We need folks with drive, money, and intestinal fortitude. It’s a very dirty business, and people find that out real fast once they get involved.
How can we get rid of the combine? I think that the legislature should pass a law that would allow Cook Co. voters to vote for precinct committeemen, similarly to the other 101 counties. State Rep. Ed Sullivan, of Mundelein, told me that he would vote for this bill. If that law is passed, we should ensure that conservative, non-combine people run for precinct committeeman, in every Cook Co. precinct, since the precinct committeemen, in their wards and townships, would endorse candidates for congress, statewide offices, and the state legislature.
We should also encourage many conservative, anti-combine people to run for mayor, city council, school board, library board, and park district board, since many of those elected officials run for higher offices.
Kirk is a total disaster and, as a Senator, he would be worse. We may see the GOP take the Senate without him this year. Look at the target-rich Senate classes 0f 2012 and 2014. That's where we take the Senate with a verrrry substantial majority. Meanwhile, with at least 47 Senate seats, we can stop judicial nominations and just about anything else Obamao's revolutionary heart desires. We aren't going to have any judicial appointments to approve in the next two years who will be worth approving. A bare majority can not convict the Kenyan. That would take 2/3. To stop treaties, we need only 34 reliables (that is not in question). 47 is enough to force negotiations on anything. Why encourage further corruption of the senior (and often most compromised) GOP Senators by making them committee chairs and tempting them with lobbyist's cash for corrupt acts??? If we like the Tea Party intervention this year, it won't last all the way to the all important 2012 election if GOP senators are back to corruption as usual.
Kirk is a personal scandal just waiting to be exposed. Those who don't think the Demonrats have the goods on Markie do not understand how the Combine works or how the national Demonrats operate either. If they need to drive Markie from public life in humiliation even though they want him in the Senate now, they will have no compunction especially if driving him out a la Florida Congressman Mark Foley can strategically disrupt and demoralize the national GOP base. Ask Idaho's "GOP" Senator Larry Craig. Oh, wait...!
First, we must destroy the Combine's "Republican" wing. This REQUIRES Kirk's destruction in 2010. Brady does not look susceptible to Combine seduction, but who knows? For Illinois to have a future, he must defeat Quinn who is just about as corrupt as Blago but a lot less colorful. By the time we remove Quinn with a crowbar from the governorship, this state is going to make California look fiscally responsible. If Kirk were elected, he would be a lifeline for the "GOP" Combiners and would keep them in campaign money to continue corrupting the party from within.
Richie Daley has apparently figured that all sources of money for Chicago are exhausted. They have, for quickly squandered bundles of money NOW! sold Chicago's parking ticket revenue and tolls for the next fifty years and they are working on water revenues. There is nothing much else to sell and the idea of raising taxes is simply out of the question given existing crushing tax burdens. Richie's forced retirement (and don't let anyone tell you any differently) means that the Chicago Machine is fading. No more money means less influence over turnout. Even the dead are ready to rebel. Chicago will continue to be a Demonrat town to be sure but it will be a pitiful and mismanaged thing like a giant with massive brain injuries. BTW, Rahm Deadfish may get nominated but it is now, by no means, a sure thing. Enthusiasm for him has been tepid.
With the Chicago Machine badly wounded, electing Kirk would simply allow the Combine to turn to its "Republican" wing to govern Illinois. So long as the corrupt Demonrats and the corrupt Combine Republicans get their jobs, contracts, perks, pension deals, etc., everybody is happy! Except, of course for the conservatives and the taxpayers. Is everyone ready to have Mark Kirk lobbying the GOP Senate Caucus to support an Obamunist bailout of Illinois, its pension funds and Chicago's???
Electing Giannoulias this year (while holding our collective noses) has the following results:
1. Kirk, by far the worst scum among GOP Illinois Congresscritters will no longer serve in the House.
2. Kirk will not serve in the Senate.
3. Giannoulias is an indictment and conviction from federal prison. He can room with the convicted mobsters to whom he lent $30 million or so from the family bank (later seized by FDIC). Brady appoints a conservative to the US Senate (Peter Roskam? One of the new Congressmen about to be elected? Jack Ryan, there were other attractive gubernatorial candidates in the primary).
4. We take whoever was not appointed and run him/her for the Dickie Durbin seat with an appointed Senator and Bill Brady applying the pressure and clout.
5. Pass Illinois Senate Bill 600 and restore control of the GOP here to the electorate.
6. Make a deal with the legislature to establish party registration and make such registration mandatory for anyone who would vote in a GOP primary. No more allowing the Combine voters to just show up on primary day and pull a ballot for whatever party they can most easily influence for Combine purposes. Close the primary! Also require a six month cooling off period from the time one leaves a party to the time when one may then join any party.
7. We got rid of Weicker in Connecticut in 1988 and we should get rid of Kirk now.
Excellent news!
Branstad is on track to defeat Culver in the Ia. gov race, too. It would be nice to have a Republican Governor in both states again.
Good news! There’s another poll out this week that still has Brady in the lead by 9-points when voters are asked about ALL the candidates for Governor (Brady had been leading in Rasmussen polls by a significant margin but they weren’t asking voters about the other candidates in the race)
The poll showing Brady a 9-point lead was done by none other than the Paul Simon Public Policy institute. So Paul Simon’s own group shows his dear ol’ daughter Shelia is getting her butt kicked in the Lt. Governor’s race. Poor gal.
They also polled the Senate race, and “electable” Mark Kirk is still in a dead heat with Alexi. Keep spitting in the face of GOP voters, Marky. I’m sure that will make you more “electable” in “blue state Illinois”. Cuz we all know voters here just love partial birth abortion and Elena Kagan.
http://www.paulsimoninstitute.org/images/PDF/fall2010_poll/2010_first_release.pdf
Wonderful essay that nails down why we shouldn’t support Kirk.
Excellent. This is vital for our state, vital. We’ve had no conservative Governors since Stratton (lost for a third term in 1960). The last 3 have been super disasters that make Jim Edgar and Big Jim Thompson look like Calvin Coolidge and Ronald Reagan.
Those close Trib and CNN polls are looking like they were flawed or outliers.
Hey can you give me any Brady signs?
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