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Israel has '8 days' to hit Iran nuclear site: Bolton
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Posted on 08/17/2010 6:41:37 AM PDT by Scythian

WASHINGTON (AFP) – Israel has "eight days" to launch a military strike against Iran's Bushehr nuclear facility and stop Tehran from acquiring a functioning atomic plant, a former US envoy to the UN has said.

Iran is to bring online its first nuclear power reactor, built with Russia's help, on August 21, when a shipment of nuclear fuel will be loaded into the plant's core.

At that point, John Bolton warned Monday, it will be too late for Israel to launch a military strike against the facility because any attack would spread radiation and affect Iranian civilians.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bolton; bomb; bunkerbuster; iran; israel; nuclear; nuke; tacticalnuke
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Sorry, I didn’t mean to impute that to you.


101 posted on 08/17/2010 10:53:44 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: CodeToad
As an American that remembers 1979 and 444 days...so what?

You have echoed my thoughts.

At the time I called for carpet bombing Tehran in sections until they gave up the hostages. Nothing in the last 30+ years has given me reason to think I was wrong.

102 posted on 08/17/2010 10:55:13 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: Scythian

“Military strike against the facility.” They’ll just build another one.

Bomb the leaders instead. The Iranian people will be grateful and look at collateral damage as a reasonable sacrifice. Bomb the facility and the Iranian leadership gets the sympathy, Israel gets the hissing and booing, and the Iranian people get nowhere.


103 posted on 08/17/2010 11:07:48 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Bushehr is the softest, least difficult target - because of its location.

However a mass of inland strikes that destroyed all the Besijji barracks would be a impressive act of social engineering, and wouldn’t even involve killing any Iranians.

Israel might have some trouble doing this - its a lot of sites to hit and a lot of territory - but they could maybe make an example of the Besijji in some western town.


104 posted on 08/17/2010 11:13:57 AM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: Forty-Niner

No they do not fly USN style a/c, but the Iranians will fall for anything.


105 posted on 08/17/2010 11:54:09 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
The Israelis have historically relied heavily on the United States for intelligence data, primarily in the form of satellite data, before conducting air strikes. Localized conflicts, not so much. The success of The 8-Day War can be largely attributed to the acquisition of spy plane imagery from the CIA and Pentagon. Without those images and detail, those Israeli air strikes, which were so critical in defeating the overwhelming enemy air superiority at the time, would have certainly had less impact.

The question I have is will the U.S. readily share their covert spy details of this Iranian facility with the Israelies right now, and what data does the IDF have of their own.

The longer this goes on without an attack, the more I suspect the Israelis don't have sufficient intelligence to get it done effectively. It is a huge risk if they fail in any way. But I can assure you, they are looking at it by the minute detail as we speak.

106 posted on 08/17/2010 11:59:26 AM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: ichabod1
...but can they gain air supremacy and drive the sky train of bombs all that way to accomplish what would need to be done.<>/i>

One neutron bomb would kill personnel as well as render the area useless due to radiation.

107 posted on 08/17/2010 12:11:44 PM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: Scythian

Am I missing something? This nuclear power plant isn’t a big deal. The big deals are the centrifuges and the heavy water reactor. The centrifuges can enrich natural Uranium so that it can be used to create a fission device. The already operating heavy water reactor (Arack) can be used to create plutonium (assuming it has the correct configuration) to create a fission device. A standard light water reactor like the one Russia built isn’t good for creating plutonium for a series of reasons including the Pu-240 and Pu-242 and the other fission products – unless the fuel has short core residence times.


108 posted on 08/17/2010 12:24:15 PM PDT by 103198
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To: mikhailovich
Don't forget the Israeli attack on Syria from a few years ago. IIRC, the Syrian air defenses “went blind” (US assistance?).

About half way through this article note the mention of Israeli satellite being shifted from Iran to Syria to send photos.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2461421.ece

109 posted on 08/17/2010 12:27:18 PM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: 103198
Am I missing something? This nuclear power plant isn’t a big deal.

Well, one way to make sure nobody get's nuked is to take our nukes and bomb the hell out of thier nukes.
110 posted on 08/17/2010 12:29:44 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Grunthor
But you will have that sweet moment when your wife turns to you and says: "You just rocked my world"!

P.S. Resist the specials on Jordanian honeymoon packages!

111 posted on 08/17/2010 12:37:04 PM PDT by In Maryland ("Impromptu Obamanomics is getting scarier by the day ..." - Caroline Baum)
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To: 103198

Excellent points.

Bushehr is not the main attraction, it’s just one more site that the Israelis have to deal with.

But it does need to be dealt with. This is because even if there’s no weapons-grade production at Bushehr it still provides the ability to build ‘dirty’ bombs laced with lethal daughter isotoBpes.


112 posted on 08/17/2010 12:41:10 PM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: ikka
"Is Israel going to be making a declaration of war in order to strike a sovereign country inside its borders?"

I think they are still looking for the October 1973 declarations from Egypt and Syria - you know, something to model it on. I hear they contracted the Japanese to finish the final draft.

In any case, an attack would be a "police action" designed to enforce UN embargos.

113 posted on 08/17/2010 12:48:59 PM PDT by In Maryland ("Impromptu Obamanomics is getting scarier by the day ..." - Caroline Baum)
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To: spacejunkie2001

The little town is/was Zellwood, the “big town” was Mount Dora. Author lived in Zellwood.


114 posted on 08/17/2010 12:51:39 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR, since 1998.)
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To: agere_contra
'isotoBpes' = isotipes eisotopes isotobes isotopes
115 posted on 08/17/2010 12:52:56 PM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: 103198

Um no. Bushehr has been downplayed publicly in order to defend the Russians who built it. Bushehr is capable of producing a quarter ton of plutonium per year, enough for 30 bombs. The other sites aren’t nearly as important.


116 posted on 08/17/2010 12:58:45 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Really? Frack, I didn’t know that.

Ah well, Bushehr really is ‘Uncle Target’ then.


117 posted on 08/17/2010 1:00:44 PM PDT by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: agere_contra

The amusing thing was that Obama and MSM made a big deal about his offer last fall that Iran export 1 ton of enriched uranium (which they of course refused to do), despite the fact that in 2007 and 2008 Russia imported 80 tons of enriched uranium for use in Bushehr. Iran could have accepted the offer and it would’ve had no effect whatsoever on their ability to make bombs.


118 posted on 08/17/2010 1:33:30 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: agere_contra
You're correct. I wasn't even thinking of dirty conventional bombs. A reactor this size would produce tons of fission product and daughter isotopes. And of course they way the people have incorrectly frightened of anything radioactive, the mass trampling would be a problem.

I was only thinking of the big booms.

119 posted on 08/17/2010 2:40:00 PM PDT by 103198
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To: Scythian
I think it would be better to focus on the real weapon grade Uranium and Plutonium production facilities and methods first. Unfortunately they've been in operation a while.

From my understanding, the Bushehr plant is a Ruskie VVER-1000/440 plant which is a low enriched light water Uranium PWR. This means that the Iranians can't use the Uranium for making fission devices without using their centrifuges. Since it is light water and a PWR, this means that its fuel cycle is not built for Plutonium production either - and the stuff coming out after a refueling won't be that good for a bomb. But as agere_contra points out, it will create tons and tons of fission product and daughter isotopes.

120 posted on 08/17/2010 3:04:20 PM PDT by 103198
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