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Gravestone Removals Add Fuel to Jerusalem Museum Dispute [Flip side to Ground Zero Mosque argument]
N Y Times ^ | 8/14/2010 | Ethan Bronner

Posted on 08/14/2010 9:12:20 AM PDT by HearMe

JERUSALEM — The latest skirmish in the war for every inch of this coveted city focused this week on the dead. Did Israeli government bulldozers, working in the middle of the night, destroy hundreds of historic Muslim graves? Or were the removed tombstones outrageous fakes placed on parkland in a ruse?

Each side in the dispute — a fiery branch of the Islamic Movement in Israel and the right-wing Jerusalem municipality — is accusing the other of shamelessness and indecency. The area in question is in West Jerusalem, a predominantly Jewish area next to a contested site where the Simon Wiesenthal Center is planning a branch devoted to tolerance and human dignity.

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The contours of the Mamilla cemetery are part of the dispute.

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Critics of the project say it is unconscionable to build such a center on a piece of land where Muslims were once buried, even if it has not been an active cemetery for nearly a century.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: islam; israel
Here Muslims are making a diametrically opposite argument to their argument on the Ground Zero Mosque.

Here they say that if the ground is considered hallowed by them (only) NO JEWISH CULTURAL CENTER CAN BE ALLOWED.

1 posted on 08/14/2010 9:12:21 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: HearMe

Now that the stones are gone they can till some pig entrails into the soil.


2 posted on 08/14/2010 9:15:00 AM PDT by Dayman
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To: Dayman

Jews dont eat pork either...


3 posted on 08/14/2010 9:18:05 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: HearMe
Except that the headstones were fake. There was no cemetery there.
4 posted on 08/14/2010 9:40:16 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: HearMe

Keep in mind that these are the same people who think every single place Muhammed so much as stopped to take a s**t is muslim holy ground in perpetuity forever and ever.


5 posted on 08/14/2010 9:41:09 AM PDT by conimbricenses (Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.)
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To: HearMe
Gee, who should I believe? The Israelis or the Muslims? Decisions, decisions.

Hmmm...which side has as a tenet of their religion something called "taqiyya" which allows its followers to lie to deceive "infidels?" Which side routinely lies to the world about their involvement in terrorism and routinely provides arms and succor to terrorists?

I think I'll place my trust in the Israelis.
6 posted on 08/14/2010 9:43:19 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: SunTzuWu

There was once a small cemetery near the precise area. The Jewish center is not going to be built on that spot.

The fake headstones, planted recently, are an Islamic attempt at perpetuating a fraud by claiming the cemetery took up much more land rendering the entire area hallowed ground.

Where in NY they argue that sensitivity to sentiment about real hallowed ground is rooted in prejudice, in Jerusalem they are arguing that not being sensitive to fake hallowed ground is rooted in prejudice.

Islamic hypocrisy at its finest.


7 posted on 08/14/2010 9:49:05 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: Sudetenland
A statement issued Thursday by the city contended that city inspectors found under the newly placed gravestones “plastic bottles, cigarette packs and irrigation piping as well as sewage manholes.”
8 posted on 08/14/2010 9:51:02 AM PDT by HearMe
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To: HearMe

Rule to live by: Never trust a Muslim, and do not conduct any business with them.


9 posted on 08/14/2010 10:05:36 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: HearMe

And that’s all there is to the story. I like history as much as the next person, but there’s nothing I despise more than lying about history.

Historical lies can take a long time to correct.


10 posted on 08/14/2010 10:08:24 AM PDT by BenKenobi (We cannot do everything at once, but we can do something at once. -Silent Cal)
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To: conimbricenses

Muhammed never came to Jerusalem. It was never mentioned in the quran. They only built the mosque of omar and the el asqa mosque as monuments to an Islamic victory by Saladin at the Horns of Hittim for the conquest of Jersusalem. That is exactly the same reason they are hellbent to put a monument in the form of a 14 story mosque at Ground Zero.


11 posted on 08/14/2010 10:14:30 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Tennessee Nana

Correction: Orthodox Jews don’t eat pork.


12 posted on 08/14/2010 12:04:22 PM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: dtrpscout

Oh, and my own Eastern North Carolina vinegar/pepper pulled pork barbeque, from an old family recipe, is heralded by many of my fellow Jews as being among the best ever—and I modestly agree!


13 posted on 08/14/2010 12:08:23 PM PDT by dtrpscout (A bad dog is better than most good people.)
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To: CdMGuy

“Rule to live by: Never trust a Muslim, and do not conduct any business with them.”

HEAR ! ! HEAR ! ! ! !

I just dealt with a Muslim who had cheated an elderly friend. When forced. he finally paid up. He was just being Muslim, as Mad Mo and the koran justify cheating the “unbeliever”.

The British were correct - “The Muslim understands best power and vengeance.”


14 posted on 08/14/2010 12:28:27 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Indeed.

When a Christian or a Jewish Person cheats somebody, they are committing a sin, against the Ten Commandments. It does not matter WHAT the religion is of the person they are sinning against. In Both Faiths, they must repent of this sin in order for it to be forgiven.

In the Koran and the Hadiths, however, the Muslim is ENCOURAGED to lie to infidels to further Islam (Taqqiyah). He is also encouraged to rape and pillage the enemy, kill prisoners of war, torture, take the women of other faiths and do what they want with them, etc.

All are sinners and fall short of the Glory of God, but as far as I know, there is only ONE religion on the Planet that ENCOURAGES Sin, and considers it righteous.

(Even WITCHCRAFT says “Do what you will, but do no harm, and I am NO proponant of Witchcraft, by ANY stretch of the imagination!)


15 posted on 08/14/2010 3:08:29 PM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: BenKenobi
Historical lies can take a long time to correct.

Beck can't do it by himself, we need to do our part.

16 posted on 08/14/2010 4:25:03 PM PDT by itsahoot (Republican leadership got us here, only God can get us out.)
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To: HearMe

“A statement issued Thursday by the city contended that city inspectors found under the newly placed gravestones “plastic bottles, cigarette packs and irrigation piping as well as sewage manholes.”


17 posted on 08/14/2010 4:35:05 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32 frwv Apres moi le deluge)
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18 posted on 08/15/2010 7:16:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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