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To: RummyChick

You are completely wrong about Free Masonry and Masons; not to mention your theory about them being behind Obama, that that is a Masonic handshake, and everything else in your truly bizarre conjecturing.

First of all, that graduation picture you posted, is a high school graduation. Obama, at 17, wouldn’t be a Mason. At best, at that age, a boy could be a DeMolay, but since none of his paternal male relatives and none of his maternal relatives were Masons, he wouldn’t be allowed to join that organization. Ergo, even IF ( and that is no Masonic handshake, not even by your own posted illustrations ! ) it were one, he wouldn’t have know it.

The “G” in the background, in that picture? It’s not even the script type of any Masonic use of that letter and took place, I am assuming, in the theatre of his elite private school.

And talking about Obama giving Queen Elizabeth II a “Masonic handshake”, is so patently ridiculous, you leave yourself open to deserved ridicule and hysterical laughter. WHY? Because no woman, not even the Queen of England, is allowed to be a Mason and never has been the case. Of course, you will tell me that I am incorrect about this; however the ancient french texts about this have long ago been shown to be hoaxes/anti-Masonic propaganda.

Have there ever been “bad” men who were Masons? Yes, just as in every group, there were a few, through the centuries.

Is there some “secret”, clandestine lodge that he belongs to, is run by ? Only in your wildest imaginings! Ditto to your tinfoil belief that the Masons “run the world”! How do I know this for sure and certain? I come from a Masonic family ( several generations of the men were all Masons, even including father-in-law ), my grandfather and his brothers were all 32 and 33 degree Masons ( the highest degree one can achieve ), were past Masters of their respective Blue Lodges, and they most assuredly were NOT “running the world”, in any way, shape, manner, or form, nor were they part of some “evil” cabal!My grandfather was also a Shriner, which puts him in a very special class of Masons.

The Illuminati doesn’t exist now and hasn’t for several hundred years.

If you really want to look for who has guided and steered Obama, look to his Communist maternal grandfather, Commie mother, card carrying black mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, who was pals with another black Commie, Valerie Jarret’s ex-father-in-law, when they were both living in Chicago, and the black Muslims and Commies who have guided and helped him all of his life. And whilst yes, there ARE black Masons, not a one of those Obama has spent his life around, has been a Mason.

Besides many American presidents have indeed been Masons, so were John Wayne, Samuel Colt, George M. Cohan, Oliver Hardy, Harry Houdini, Buzz Aldrin, Florenz Ziegfield, the Rev. Norman Vincent Peale, Audie Murphy, Fiorello Laguardia, Douglas MacArthur,Rudyard Kipling, Clark Gable, Louis Armstrong, and all of the GREEN MOUNTAIN BOYS, who pulled off the BOSTON TEA PARTY; not to mention many of your fellow FREEPERS, whom you have spent your time on this thread denigrating and impugning, for no reason and whom you owe an apology to.


417 posted on 08/14/2010 5:35:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

I didn’t ask if Obama gave the Queen a freemason Handshake. I asked if Tony Blair did..because it looked like one. And the one to the Pope looked like one, too. Look at the video I posted again.

A poster here claimed Obama couldn’t possibly be a Freemason because of his values. I posted the names of Freemasons with values that I would call into question. Thus, his argument is null and void.

Yes, there are Clandestine Lodges.Don’t you know that.

Also, isn’t it true that Freemasons can lie and it is acceptable to the order..and that they must protect their brothers.

As for the graduation picture,many have said it is photoshopped. The G may be part of the photoshop.

And still no explanation from any of you Freemasons as to why Obama put that picture in his swearing in photo op...of all the pictures and places in the White House..why that one???

If Al sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Mfume, Fattah, and Rangel are Freemasons...then why can’t Obama be one, too?


421 posted on 08/14/2010 5:45:58 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: nopardons

Btw, I don’t owe ANYONE an apology but you do for falsely claiming I said something.

There is info out there that Ronald Reagan was a Freemason. Could be true or not. Winston Churchill was a Freemason.

But supposedly so is Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Mfume, Fattah, and Rangel.

The fact remains that Obama put a painting in a very important photo op for a reason..and you have yet to explain that one. I bet many people here would not even know who that was in that painting without doing some research.

What is a Muslim doing putting Latrobe in one of his most important photos at the beginning of his Presidency??????

Answer that one.


431 posted on 08/14/2010 6:50:30 PM PDT by RummyChick
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