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Troy Wolverton test-drives electric Nissan Leaf and plug-in Chevy Volt
MercuryNews.com ^ | 08/01/2010 12:21:00 PM PDT | Troy Wolverton

Posted on 08/07/2010 12:27:03 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Who knew that electric cars could be fun to drive and practical at the same time?

Those were my impressions last week after test-driving the all-electric Nissan Leaf and the plug-in Chevrolet Volt, two new cars that will reach showroom floors later this year. The Leaf was zippy, spacious and fun. The Volt felt like a standard family car updated for the 21st century with high-tech features you can control through a smartphone.

I liked them both but for different reasons, and would consider buying either of them if I were in the market for a car.

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To: umgud

We rented a hybrid Camry and had the air running the whole time while in Vegas. It performed wonderfully and got 35+mpg.

We probably couldn’t afford the Camry if we bought it. And the ROI is not there yet. But it was a great car.


21 posted on 08/07/2010 12:47:23 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Hojczyk

I bet the eco-nuts will start coming up with eco names for their children such as Volt and Leaf.


22 posted on 08/07/2010 12:48:10 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Hojczyk

When whores type, they become presstitutes.


23 posted on 08/07/2010 12:50:54 PM PDT by Lexington Green (Hysterical media did more economic damage than the oil spill)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL

That day is very close. All it will take is for one of the super capacitor systems to reach mass production.


24 posted on 08/07/2010 12:54:56 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Hojczyk
How much is the Leaf? The Volt is way, way, way overpriced for a family car.

How much do they cost to charge? If it were, say, $1 to $1.50 per day, it would be less expensive than my Pontiac Montana is to drive to and from work. If you chop the sticker price in half, that might be OK, although there are still many, many unanswered questions.

Of course the guvmint could solve a lot by passing a law that forces us all to replace every car we own with a Volt starting in 2013. Then they could require us to buy a new Volt every year until we die or pay massive fines or go to jail. They could use the fines to pay for Volts for people who don't want to work so don't have the money.

The law can say we have the right to keep our own car if we want to, but it won't eliminate the requirement to buy that Volt.

This gets more reasonable every time I read it. Of course we won't know every requirement until after we pass the law.

25 posted on 08/07/2010 12:55:16 PM PDT by stevem
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To: tx_eggman

Heh. I know the guy on the right. He was a journalism teacher at the local community college where I went, and even took his class which I later dropped (mainly because I’m not exactly the journalist type). Former journalist of the Merc, left and sued the Merc for reasons he did not specify in class for legal reasons.

Needless to say, it’s not hard to know where he stands on the political spectrum.


26 posted on 08/07/2010 1:01:52 PM PDT by Simmy2.5
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To: dhs12345

I’m an old over-the-hill codger, driving my 4th Ford Explorer. It has 174K miles on it. Looking forward to the 2011 Explorer with turbo-charged 4 cyl. and a 6 spd. auto. Everything I want and fuel economy, too. Probably 30+ mpg out on the big road. My S-in-L’s Edge with a V-6 gets in the high twenties cruising, so the new Explorer set-up will be even better.


27 posted on 08/07/2010 1:07:49 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Simmy2.5

Sorry for double posting. But before I confuse people, let’s just say whatever reason he left the Merc wasn’t due to not sharing their politics.

Oh, and he did relay a story to us when he had a conservative student in the class who gave her opinion. Let’s just say it seems he likes to ‘prove people wrong’ with help from the other classmates. The girl at least tried and brought stacks of articles showing her point of view. That being said, he’s a nice guy all around when it is not concerning politics. I myself kept my views private when I was there.


28 posted on 08/07/2010 1:08:33 PM PDT by Simmy2.5
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To: stevem
The Volt is way, way, way overpriced for a family car.

Yes, for now. But remember just a few years ago that Flat Panel TV's were $10,000? It wasn't very long ago. The Volt will easily sell out the first two years. GM will build 10K cars the first year and 45K the second. They could produce more but they need manufacturing for the Opel Ampera which is exactly the same car with different skins. The Ampera will be introduced in Europe in 2011. Production of the Ampera will shift to Europe later in 2011.

As production increases the economies of scale will kick in and the price will come down. It's been that way with cell phones, Computers, Calculators and just about everything else.

I'm amazed at the number of people who cannot grasp the economics of new product introduction. They think the Volt won't sell because it's overpriced for them. Well there are a lot of people who will easily shell this money out. There are some 60K people on the unofficial waiting list. The Volt will come down in price and GM has lots of more EREV in the production pipeline.
29 posted on 08/07/2010 1:10:23 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Hojczyk

A typical electric vehicle will only travel 4 miles per kilowatt-hour. Plus, the battery is never discharged more than half way. (The Volt only has a 16 Kwh battery pack.) That means you’d need to have a massive battery to travel any significant distance. But a bigger battery would add weight to the vehicle and make it less efficient.


30 posted on 08/07/2010 1:16:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog (freerepublic.com - Now 100% flag free.)
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To: Hojczyk
Has anyone figured out how much damage the Volt can do to your electric bill for 40 mile vs. your gas station bill for another 40 miles?
31 posted on 08/07/2010 1:17:49 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Hojczyk
My wife and I went looking at cars yesterday. They now have a "Global Warming Score" rating on every vehicle.


32 posted on 08/07/2010 1:21:32 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: Hojczyk
...would consider buying either of them if I were in the market for a car.

You DID buy one Tom, even though you aren't in the market for one. And for every one they sell, you'll buy a little of that one too. You have no choice. And you won't even get to drive them either.

33 posted on 08/07/2010 1:28:54 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Hojczyk
Any dolt can add an electric generator to a car!


34 posted on 08/07/2010 1:29:18 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Sacajaweau
Drive it to work for 6 months.

... In Northern Minnesota.

35 posted on 08/07/2010 1:30:58 PM PDT by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Tucker39

Can’t beat that.


36 posted on 08/07/2010 1:32:22 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: bigbob

Did that picture come from PeopleofWalmart.com?


37 posted on 08/07/2010 1:57:14 PM PDT by ponygirl
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To: Hojczyk
I doubt we'll see Al Gore buying either one.
38 posted on 08/07/2010 2:03:15 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Hojczyk
The Leaf is all-electric, which means you never have to worry about burning gasoline...

It runs on coal.

39 posted on 08/07/2010 3:45:24 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Socialism is the philosophy of failure, - W Churchill)
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To: Hojczyk
This is akin to a cellphone with battery life of 10 minutes with an 8 hour recharging time.
40 posted on 08/07/2010 4:07:31 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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