Posted on 07/07/2010 11:52:08 AM PDT by fathers1
The French parliament has approved a law that makes psychological violence a criminal offence.
Not only is psychological violence a criminal offense, its now punishable by as much as a 75,000 euro fine and three years in prison. Read about the new law here (BBC, 6/24/10). The law is gender-neutral on its face, but the article readily admits that it was passed to protect women.
What is psychological violence other than a serious misuse of language? Its defined as,
repeated acts which could be constituted by words or other machinations, to degrade ones quality of life and cause a change to ones mental or physical state.
What could be clearer? Repeated machinations to degrade ones quality of life. (It doesnt quite have the ring of Liberty! Equality! Brotherhood! but I guess its the best they could do.) Keep in mind that you can go to jail for that, whatever that is. What if a spouse loses a job more than once? That looks like a criminal offense now.
So, like so many laws that have the effect of restricting legitimate behavior, this one is impossibly vague. Anyone past the age of about eight could imagine all sorts of actions that may or may not violate the statute. Does hubby too vociferously disagree with his wifes spending habits? Its off to jail for him. What if he tries to convince her not to invest in the cant miss business opportunity peddled by Snidely Whiplash? Is that a matter for sane discussion between the husband and wife? Well, it could be, but it could also be probable cause for his arrest, prosecution, conviction and incarceration. Its her choice.
The logic of domestic violence legislation began legitimately enough. Battery which would be illegal if done to a stranger shouldnt become legal if done to an intimate partner. Thats simple enough. But that was never all there was to the concept of policing domestic violence. From the beginning it was about protecting women and not men. That meant it was about punishing men and not women.
It took years for statutes to even use gender-neutral language in DV matters. But thats just cover, and pretty thin cover at that. Everything from laws and regulations, police training manuals and government documents and websites, to news media and popular culture assume that domestic violence is done only by men only to women. Thirty-five years of social science to the contrary be damned.
But even that has not been enough to satisfy the anti-male contingent of the DV industry. If domestic violence laws were truly about violence, theyd still be radically sexist, but that would be their only problem. Unfortunately, over the years, the concept of violence has expanded far beyond the confines of the word. So now financial violence, psychological violence and social violence have become routine parts of the concept that began with the real need to protect people from physical injury.
And make no mistake; as the article acknowledges, the French law targets men. So whose freedom is circumscribed? Overwhelmingly mens. Who will be taken from their homes and families? Overwhelmingly men. Who will be afraid to do or say the slightest thing because someone could conceivably construe it as tending to degrade the quality of the other persons life? Overwhelmingly men.
Not too long ago I reported on a DV training seminar for Maine police officers. It contained sexist language to the effect that all perpetrators are men and all victims are women. But worse than that, of the eight hypothetical examples used to train the officers, not one concluded that the woman in the incident should be arrested for DV. Still worse, one of the examples consisted of a woman who had struck her husband with a heavy ashtray, raising a lump on his head and causing bleeding. He had done nothing to her, but, amazingly enough, he was the one arrested. Why? Because she seemed afraid that he might retaliate. In short, she had committed DV and he had committed no crime, but he was arrested because he might do so in the future.
In DV cases, the man has a way of being at fault regardless of the facts, and so, I suspect, it will be with the new French law.
Is that because women dont abuse men emotionally/psychologically? Hardly. But placing the new law in the context of domestic violence will inevitably mean that it will be overwhelmingly men who are arrested, prosecuted and sent to jail.
And as before, the arm of the law grows ever longer. From punches and cuts its moved to criminalize words. Is there a reason for this law? Do women or men need to have the state step into their houses to listen to what they have to say to each other and carry them off to jail if the words are deemed by someone to be inappropriate?
What is gained by this law and what is lost? Freedom of speech and the right of personal privacy are lost; thats easy enough. But what is gained? Thats harder. Its so hard in fact that the article cites French murder statistics as justification, as if they in some unexplained way bolstered the need to criminalize speech.
In fact, even when it comes to violent crime (i.e. actual violence), France is an extremely safe place to live. According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, France has a murder rate of 1.6 people per 100,000 population. That works out to about 1,000 murders per year, or a rate about a third that of the United States. Of those 1,000, about 150 are women, and not one by psychological violence. Of course a single murder is one too many, but by any stretch of the imagination, French women are safe.
This law wont make them any safer, but itll certainly make men less so.
Probably this law was enacted in response to the rising violence and intimidation that is overwhelmingly perpetrated by young Muslim men.
It certainly was worded poorly.
Ugh.
Could we send Obama there and have them arrest him for this?
He certainly qualifies.
Don’t they already have harrassment laws, which should pretty much cover whatever it is they’re getting at here?
That needs to be enforced against the politicians...
If you are a woman born into islam, just TRY to get away. It will be the last thing you ever do...and this stupid law will not protect them when they ate d.e.d.
0bummer does that to me.
Do I get money?
Because if you try - and you're Moslem - they will catch you, rape you, stab you many times, cut off your head, and set you on fire.
In other words, you can go to jail for doing or saying anything which another may not like.
What do you expect from a degenerated, emasculated excuse for a country like France? Non of this kind of crap will save them when Sharia Law is the law of the land.
Aren't there already laws against all that stuff? I don't see how adding another law is going to stop the Muzzies, but it could be used by a vindictive woman to harrass a regular guy. (By the way, I am female, but I am very ashamed of how others of my gender behave at times.)
Exactly. I don't see any point to this law.
This seems to fit right into the wording: the professor must be punished.
Why would a Frenchman now talk to anybody about anything?
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
Short people got no reason
To live
repeated acts which could be constituted by words or other machinations, to degrade ones quality of life and cause a change to ones mental or physical state.
If they passed this law here, they would have to arrest the entire congress and obama administration for about 200 million counts of repeated acts which could be constituted by words or other machinations, to degrade ones quality of life and cause a change to ones mental or physical state.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/07/07/state/n172110D10.DTL&tsp=1
Jaycee Dugard kidnap case
“In their claim against the state, the Dugard family members claimed psychological, physical and emotional damages.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2010/07/07/state/n172110D10.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0t44LIkwf
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