Posted on 07/05/2010 5:45:28 AM PDT by nuconvert
Turkey will sever diplomatic ties with Israel unless it apologizes over the commando raid on an aid convoy to Gaza in which nine Turks died, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu was quoted as saying Monday.
"Relations will be broken" unless Israel apologizes or accepts the conclusions of an international inquiry into the May 31 attack on the aid convoy bound for Gaza, he told Monday's edition of Turkey's Hurriyet newspaper.
Turkey has until now called for an international probe into the raid, but in a break with that position, Davutoglu did not reject the creation of Israel's own commission to investigate the raid.
"If this commission concludes that the raid was unjust and if they apologize, that will be sufficient," he said, although he insisted that Turkey wanted compensation from the Jewish state.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ruled out any apology Friday, and a senior Israeli government official said Monday after Davutoglu's remarks that Israel would never say sorry for defending itself.
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We’re gonna have to face facts. Turkey is rapidly evolving into an islamic/fundamentaist/terrorist state.
Turkey was a secular westernized nation, The EU never allowed Turkey into the union, and so the Turks are seeking other paths to power. They want to recreate the old Ottoman empire, with Turkey at the head.
Turkey is no longer an ally, but an enemy. Obama is so blinded, he cannot see it.
I doubt that. Seems to me that he sees it well enough; he's hoping that America doesn't until it's too late.
After all, he himself is on the side of America's enemies.
*PING*
“Turkey’s brief experiment with a western secular democratic state is over. They are returning to the natural autocratic existence of the followers of the pedophile prophet.”
Maybe true, maybe not. But before dumping Turkey as a quasi ally, keep in mind that they control the Straits of Bosphorus, the only access into the Black Sea. We need them to lean more to us than the Russkies and we ought to be able to do that without abandoning Israel or Turkey. We do want the freedom to navigate in the Black Sea, don’t we?
If Israel wants to use Turkish airspace, they will use it whether there is permission or not. Turkey might be setting themselves up to lose a few airplanes.
There is no freedom in supporting the islamosfascist genocidal Turks. We are far better off with the Russians and the Kurds.
The parastate of the Turk is doomed..as it well should be. It is an anomaly and an anachronism.
“There is no freedom in supporting the islamosfascist genocidal Turks. We are far better off with the Russians and the Kurds.”
I didn’t say we should support Turkey over Israel. What I said was there are STRATEGIC implications to getting in a pissing contest with them unnecessarily. I’m not a big fan of diplomacy BS, but it has its place here. The Turks have been quasi allies to US throughout the Cold War (a member of NATO since 1950s). The Russkies don’t come close to that then or now.
Obviously, something about Turkey in your past has caused an obvious intense hatred of them. Are you an Armenian? Were you the main character in the “Midnight Express”?
That's the scope of my intense disgust with Turks. They are monsters and have not owned up to the atrocities they commited.
Genocide is not a matter to trifle with. If you want to joke about these things go play with yourself.
Of course genocide is not a matter to trifle with. However, in spite of the Armenian issue in the early 1900s, the US has chosen to treat them as allies since the 1950s largely because of their strategic location. Although their current govt. denies the past culpability, they are not themselves guilty of genocide. Your hatred of them would be somewhat akin to hating all Germans today for what Hitler did or hating all Southerners because many of them were slaveholders in the mid 1800s. But, their failure to acknowledge their past is of course deplorable.
The Turks are also confronted with increased strength of Islamic fundamentalism. It is in our best interests avoid sending them in the Iranian mode. That does NOT mean we should support them at the expense of Israel. My original post to you indicated that their were reasons for diplomacy with Turkey in the 50s and those reasons remain today. BTW, I have very good friends who are Armenian and understand their long term hatred of the Turks.
The Turks are also confronted with increased strength of Islamic fundamentalism
IN fact the Turk is the prime mover of the Islamic fundamentalist ideology. Their actions all along their history have shown a remarkable adherence to the insanity of Muslim ideolgy whether it is brutal conquerning, devshirme, genocide, etc. “Fundamentalism” is a misnomer as the duties and beliefs of muslims are plainly spelled out in the koran and the hadith-—fundamentalism and islam are one and the same.
There is no justification for the US to have any kind of relationship with a terror parastate like the one held by the Turk.
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