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1 posted on 07/04/2010 11:04:03 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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"So they would be saving money at the same time as they are paying the penalty."

WHOA!
My head just spun around 360o.

(I think I hurt my neck.)

41 posted on 07/05/2010 4:51:34 AM PDT by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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further discussion-

http://volokh.com/2010/07/04/harold-kumar-and-health-care-reform/


42 posted on 07/05/2010 4:57:15 AM PDT by 4buttons
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Slings and Arrows

GO BIG OR GO HOME

43 posted on 07/05/2010 5:28:01 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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The only White Castle here in Southern Delaware is our Congressman.

Good to see you around, Kent.


45 posted on 07/05/2010 5:35:18 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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This whole mess was conceived by the alumni of the Harvard School of Public health, scions of the Oligarchy, hoping never to dirty their hands at anything other than the work PC We the People force them to use at ‘work” in their Ivory Towers.

Mess is too light a term for the bureaucratic, administrative, and financial hell these clowns intend to visit upon flyover country.

47 posted on 07/05/2010 5:40:21 AM PDT by mo
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AFSCME guy...

"He figures many of the White Castle workers who would end up paying a significant amount of their income for premiums would opt to buy less expensive coverage from a federal exchange."

The goal of the socialist bill explained clearly, and by a union guy.

48 posted on 07/05/2010 5:40:59 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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Ohio hamburger...

Instantly, my thoughts went to the Maid Rite Sandwich Shoppe in Greenville, Ohio.
Don't know if any other freepers know about that place, but we never go back to Ohio with visiting!
54 posted on 07/05/2010 6:32:57 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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So, if I read the article correctly, it’s a $3000 fine/tax if their employees have to pay more than 9.5% of their premium cost but they only pay $2000 if they don’t provide insurance at all. Sounds like a no-brainer to me. “Sorry folks, it’s better for the company to discontinue your insurance coverage.”

That also makes me think that this whole scheme is set up to intentionally fail so the communists can use it as the excuse to usher in the single-payer scheme they wanted all along.


60 posted on 07/05/2010 7:55:18 AM PDT by NerdDad (Aug 7, 1981, I married my soul mate, CDBEAR. 28 years and I'm still teenager-crazy in love with her.)
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says Kreisberg, the union's health care policy director. "So they would be saving money at the same time as they are paying the penalty."

Union mathematics at work.

62 posted on 07/05/2010 8:21:57 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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examining whether it would make financial sense for the company to eliminate health insurance coverage altogether and have all its employees buy insurance on the federal exchange, says Richardson.

And that, folks, has been the Commies plan from Day One.

63 posted on 07/05/2010 8:24:01 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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Those managers are worried about their million dollar bonus’. /sarc.


70 posted on 07/05/2010 9:30:16 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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All part of the plan.


72 posted on 07/05/2010 9:33:53 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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Fire the unproductive; offer OT to the productive, and wait for the discrimination lawsuits.


73 posted on 07/05/2010 9:34:57 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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A job without the best health care benefits is worse than no job at all, so there’s going to be lots more people with no job at all. Go figure.


74 posted on 07/05/2010 9:36:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Steven Kreisberg of the 1.4 million-member American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union, questions White Castle's calculations. His union represents food service workers in Ohio public schools and other institutions.

Why on earth bring a union thug into this discussion. The union employees he represents are paid off the public trough - comparison to the private sector.

76 posted on 07/05/2010 10:14:46 AM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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This is going around e-mails. Any truth to it?

” Starting in 2011—next year—the W-2 tax form sent by your employer will be
increased to show the value of whatever health insurance you are provided.
It doesn’t matter if you’re retired. Your gross income WILL go up by the amount
of insurance your employer paid for. So you’ll be required to pay taxes on a larger
sum of money that you actually received. Take the tax form you just finished for
2009 and see what $15,000.00 or $20,000.00 additional gross income does to
your tax debt. That’s what you’ll pay next year. For many it puts you into a
much higher bracket. This is how the government is going to buy insurance for
fifteen (15) percent that don’t have insurance and it’s only part of the tax increases,
but it’s not really a “tax increase” as such, it a redefinition of your taxable income.”


83 posted on 07/06/2010 6:09:33 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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