Posted on 06/30/2010 3:30:07 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has confirmed Stearns County investigators are at a property in the area where Jacob Wetterling was abducted more than 20 years ago.
Neighbors report seeing several unmarked law enforcement vehicles Wednesday morning at the property in St. Joseph. A sheriff's office squad car is parked at the entry to the driveway.
The sheriff's office tells 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS that, "an investigation is occurring today, but details of that investigation are restricted by a Stearns County court order."
The sheriff's office would not release any other details about the investigation and gave no indication when more details would be released.
(Excerpt) Read more at kstp.com ...
Here is a link to the text-version cache at google of a blog about a man that the Wetterlings knew -- because he was OBSESSED with Jacob, painted a portrait of him, and met the Wetterlings so that he could share "psychic" info with them.
Right?
Okay, now take a little look at this....
Tuesday, January 6, 2009 WI - Possible break in Jacob Wetterling case
MILWAUKEE -- A Milwaukee man's confession - just a few days before his death - may provide a major break in the Jacob Wetterling case.
Police received a tip in mid-December that Vernon Seitz, 62, confessed to his psychiatrist that he had killed two children, according to information in a search warrant , obtained by WTMJ-TV, Milwaukee. The psychiatrist told KARE 11 this afternoon that Seitz confessed ......
St. Joseph crowds delight in parade, festival fun
ST. JOSEPH — Residents here continued a July Fourth pastime while hoping to end another rite that dates back more than two decades: Waiting for closure to the unsolved abduction of Jacob Wetterling. The Church of St. Joseph Parish Festival brings a crowd to St. Joseph every year......
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......Lauer and other festivalgoers also voiced concern for Wetterling's family and for Robert, Rita and Dan Rassier, the family whose property was searched. "I just hope they get this settled... for the families' sakes," Lauer said.....
Sorry, I was rambling about the one car or supposed two cars. Bottom line, I don’t believe DR saw or reported a car.
IOW, the LE let the festival stuff be driven out by who knows who right in the middle of the digging?!? Who knows what else might have been driven out. No wonder this remains unsolved, grrrrr!
Yeah, I’ve read about Seitz and he was one sick, sick monster. Sadly, they’ll never know how many kids he abducted and killed. They’ve tried to link him to most every unsolved case around because of all the info he kept on missing children cases. I just hope cops don’t just willy nilly write off cases to Seitz like they did with Henry Lee Lucas who delayed the electric chair by confessing to hundreds or thousands of murders. FYI, a co-worker’s relative was killed and friend’s landlady was killed and the LE tried to close those two unsolved cases with a confession from Lucas. The problem was Lucas (I suspect much like Seitz) was obsessed enough about various cases that he could lead the cops on a merry chases by telling them just enough about cases that they believed he might have been involved when in the end he wasn’t. But who knows.
Check out the sex offender map of St. J. Search any town and if the LE is on the up and up, there will be several registered offenders in every community. There’s about 20 in my small town. In fact there’s nearly 20 in the dozen small towns I’ve typed in, so that begs the question why the St. J. search shows only one over in St. Cloud and even the priests don’t show up. Maybe the priests aren’t listed because they haven’t been legally charged but I find it hard to believe it’s the safest place in the country to live. Can you say cover up?
Surprising that the "restricted" priests are not mentioned -- however, do you suppose that not one of them was ever convicted, and thus would NOT show up anywhere, officially?
I'll bet that that website called BEHIND THE PINE CURTAIN would have details about the number of sex offenders within a hundred miles of Collegeville. A.W.R. Sipe seems to be the website owner, and he's written LOTS of books about celibacy & the lack thereof, and the Catholic Church. Apparently he was at St.Johns for DECADES.
I did not realize that his family wasn't notified immediately when he disappeared.
Really disgusting if true.
Google TEXT-only cache version of discussion about Josh Guimond at godlike productions dot com.
HORRRRRORS!!
http://www.behindthepinecurtain.com/wordpress/?p=1556
Meet Dan Rassier's Pedophile Priest, and Other Associates
http://www.findjoshua.com/aboutjosh3.htm
Josh in 2000 on a band trip to Austria and Germany.
check your mail
Kevin was 21 at the time. He heard something on the scanner. Saw a police car speed by his house.
Curious, he tried to follow the squad. He was there so fast there was no police crime scene tape around the bikes and scooter yet. He drove away and told a police officer what he'd seen.
Kevin: "He said, yeh we know all about that. I know about the bikes. And that was it. It was like I was bothering him. We backed out and left and that was it."
Trish Van Pilsum: "He didn't take your name or phone number."
Kevin: "He didn't take my name."
Trish Van Pilsum: "He didn't ask, did you see a man lurking around?"
Kevin: "Didn't ask me a thing."
Nor, it appears, did the officer pass along his conversation with Kevin to investigators. It strikes the new investigators now working on the case 14 years later as strange. It also strikes them as a huge problem.
In fact, investigators didn't know about Kevin at all until this October [2003].
This came about because he met a federal marshal at a party who urged Kevin to talk to the lead investigator of the Wetterling investigation.
Kevin: "He was really shocked. 'Cause after I told him who I talked to, what I seen, he couldn't believe he didn't know about me. In reality, I could have been the kidnapper and they never would have found me."
In fact, of the thousands and thousands of pages of leads, none places Kevin at the scene around the time of the kidnapping.
A source close to the case said they wasted 14 years looking for him.
There’s also a video of that interview. It’s totally CRAZY that the cop didn’t follow up. Even the cops (I think it was the chief back then?) admit there were lots of egos between them and the FBI so info wasn’t shared. What a shame. Makes you wonder how much more was overlooked.
And what if the cop wasn’t a cop but just told the car dude he was... Like he said, he could have been the kidnapper or even the “cop” could have been the kidnapper. Like the boys said, it was dark and hard to see. Did he have on a uniform? Did he show the car dude his badge? Was he in a police car? We don’t know.
It’s interesting that everyone keeps saying “bikes” when Jacob and Trevor had bikes, but Aaron had a push scooter. I suppose just glancing over into the ditch (and how did car dude see into the ditch in the dark?) one would just see handle bars and wheels and assume there were bikes but that’s just one more inaccuracy. Oh, and Aaron’s video (a couple years ago as an adult), he said the guy had a hand gun but, again, it’s reported as a “shot gun or hand gun.” I would think someone who just got back from Iraq would know the difference and if he said it was a hand gun then a hand gun it was.
Back to the car dude - ok, so he’s been cleared but has his last name ever been released? I’m sure he’s known in the community but I haven’t seen his last name. Back then people listened to scanners as a pastime so his story is believable. Where did he live to get there so quickly? Or were the cops that slow? It’s not likely there were many officers on the force or on duty that night. Were they city police or sheriff deputies who might have been several miles away in another part of the county? I assume some were at home and took time to get dressed. So many questions.
Who is the "we" who backed out?
At WS or else In Sessions, there was a chat about how the PERP frequently likes to insert him/herself into the investigation, so they aren't necessarily looking at this person as NOT being involved.
The whole thing is NUTS.
However..... I suppose this will sound dreadful, but I can understand the FBI not sharing information if the FBI has general suspicions about the entire area due to the "restricted" priests at SJU.
Up pops an article about the remains of Tyler Arkinson being found in Winnepeg -- according to the family spokesman, the great uncle of Tyler who is named Paul GUIMOND.
http://www.globalwinnipeg.com/mobile/Body+found+family+missing+teen+fears+worst/3213293/story.html
Small world?
I’ve never heard the name before either. Intersting.
He went missing on March 21, 2010. The Sagkeeng First Nation is a day’s drive from St. J. The Winnepeg Music Festival was going on the whole month of March. Wonder if there was a marathon around that time?
Latest news is the dogs, at the time, tracked Jacob to the second telephone pole down the driveway. I can’t see the poles on google maps and any photo shot up the drive from various videos is distorted so you really can’t tell how many feet into the property it was. I’ve read that his last print was where his toe dug into the gravel so could it be that he was picked up and carried? Can dogs lose the scent if he was carried and not in contact with the ground?
I wish we knew the name of the policeman that the 20-something year old car driver told that he'd seen bikes in a ditch -- since it's a small rural town, isn't it quite possible that he knew the identity of the cop?
See, I am wondering if MAYBE the perp not only had a 'costume' of military camos, but also has a police officer uniform????
Good grief! There are so many inconsistencies. No wonder this case is still unsolved, argggggh!!!
I just read that Aaron said they rode their bikes on that road all the time (can’t find the link, sorry). Of course, it’s reasonable to believe the kids rode up and down that road hundreds of times. IIRC, Jerry even said they’d been up and down it but this was the first time at night. But then I read this:
Oct. 18, 2009 - Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension Special Agent Ken McDonald said, “it wasn’t routine for the boys to ride their bikes along that road.”
http://www.immelman.us/news/jacob-wetterling-rassier-search
"We biked that road hundreds of times," he said.
Friend [Aaron] Larson still hopes for a happy ending | sctimes.com | St Cloud Times
Two weeks after authorities dug up a St. Joseph Township farm as part of the 21-year investigation into the abduction of Jacob Wetterling, they continue to study items found there.
Investigators took six truckloads of dirt and other items from the farm at 29748-91st Ave. in St. Joseph Township during a two-day search.
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Sanner said workers will begin processing the soil in the "near future," Sanner said. Other items have already been sent to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension lab for analysis......
Say, remember how everyone was chattering about HOW could the son of the farm owners who themselves were in Euroope at the time, HOW could he simply go to sleep with LE doing a search outside on the property?
Take a look at what I read this morning at SM.
VERY revealing, hey?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=72u5f9tkqbpb1aoa2f4026t6o0&topic=8427.955;wap2
....Many years ago I was involved in a search for a missing person who had presumably been abducted and murdered.
While everyone was looking high and lo, the person thought responsible for this horrific crime was at his home. Police came to search his home and while they were searching HE FELL ASLEEP.
During the revealing details we learned from trained sources that if you had 10 people and one of them was guilty and you put them all in a cell, told them they had been charged with murder, NINE of them would be crawling the walls all day, crying, distraught and what have you, the guilty person more often than not would be resting or sleeping.
What we learned from that was the REASON they would be resting or sleeping is because their brain already knew the truth.......
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