Posted on 06/29/2010 4:21:08 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist
Rand Paul Won’t Say How Old the Earth Is
Charles Johnson
The Lizard Annex 6-28-2010
From PageOneKentucky.com, here’s a video of GOP candidate Rand Paul addressing a convention of Christian homeschoolers, and dodging a question about the age of the Earth.
The questions asked by the homeschoolers in the video: 1) are you a Christian, 2) how old is the Earth, and 3) will you let the UN take our children. Yep, really. And these are the teachers asking these questions. They’re raising a generation of kids who are ignorant anti-science fanatics, afraid that the United Nations is going to come and kidnap them. Good grief.
Did he dodge the question because he’s a creationist and he knows that he shouldn’t reveal it for political reasons, or because he’s not a creationist and he knows he shouldn’t reveal it for political reasons? Either way, this is very sleazy behavior.
My opinion: I think he probably is a creationist, just like his father Ron Paul, because his world view matches the creationist world view in every respect.
Those that believe in theistic evolution (like myself) do NOT support teaching creationism in school.
So your “simple arithmetic” is only simple in that it is simple minded.
You just don't get it. As long as there is a Free Market demand for scientists there will be a Free Market demand for schools that teach science.
The Free Market doesn't demand that less popular ideas that pay off be eliminated just because they are less popular.
If the majority of Americans stop learning science, scientists will be trained by and hired by the minority of Americans that still seek to produce value using science.
Do you understand enough about the Free Market to understand that ideas that pay off, no matter their relative popularity, will continue to have a Market?
The Free Market demand for scientists will not go away, no matter how much you might wish it would. So long as there is a Free Market demand for scientists, there will be a Free Market demand for science education.
PARENTS who have MONEY (perhaps from their job as a highly trained scientist) will seek to purchase an EDUCATION that includes science; thus so long as there is a Free Market demand for scientists, schools that teach evolution will not die out.
Where do you think this Free Market demand for highly trained scientists is going to go? When ‘you and your kind’ outbreed everybody else, you wont need none of that stuff?
Unfortunately, I suspect creation scientists would end up filling the same niche as those that get degrees in similarly worthless humanities - they’ll be the ones who train the next generation of those seeking the same worthless degree.
Well, I haven't seen an evolutionist that can think outside their box at all because, if they can, they immediately abandon evolution.
My post assumes you homeschool, not were homeschooled. Tbat’s what I got from your previous posts.
I still stand that your homeschool arrogance is not good for the Christian faith at large. And that the kids you are (or will homeschool) will have more difficulty solving “out of the box” problems coming from a homeschooling background. Maybe you’re an outlier. Hope so for your kids sake if they choose a problem solving career.
Do those that think outside the box immediately abandon the notion that the Earth orbits the Sun?
The Demand will be for schools which teach Creationist Science, because that's what we Parents will spend our money on.
It really doesn't matter if Evolutionist Schools could guarantee our kids a Million-Dollar-a-Year Job fresh out of graduation, because we won't purchase their services. Sending a child to an Evolutionist School is a form of Child Abuse, and absolutely no amount -- NO amount -- of supposed "payoff", would be sufficient to persuade us to so Harm our children.
If there were Schools which offered students Mandatory Daily Raping as a "service" of their schooling -- and also the promise of a Good Job after graduation -- do you think that Christian Parents would send our children to such schools?
No. They would die off because of lack of Demand.
And we have the same attitude towards the teaching of Evolutionism.
Give us our Money back, and Evolutionist Schools will die out -- because we Parents will not send our children to School to be Mentally Raped. For ANY amount of alleged "payoff".
Yes.
"Do those that think outside the box immediately abandon the notion that the Earth orbits the Sun?"
Those who can think outside the box admit that they are equivalent under GR.
That’s because to you evolution is the end all be all of science. It’s really just a small part of the scientific body of knowledge. And your either or assumption has no basis in scientific thought.
No, I’m an advocate of homeschooling and Christian schooling, because I wish my children to have the kind of superior education which my Marxist Atheist father (and believer in Government Schooling) did not provide for his children.
(Sorry for the double-post, bad ping to MetMom in my #149)
You aren't paying attention, are you?
"It’s really just a small part of the scientific body of knowledge. And your either or assumption has no basis in scientific thought."
Evolution has nothing to do with scientific knowledge. Evolution is the philosophy of naturalism supported by the fallacy of affirming the consequent.
Neither does evolution have anything to do with scientific thought. It is a philosophical position, not a scientific one.
Understand the advocacy and the reasoning behind but if you propagate this attitude, your childs intellectual development will suffer. Homeschooling is not for every parent or every child.
39% believe in evolution;
25% do not believe in evolution (ie creationism of some sort);
36% no opinion;
1% didn't answer;
So firm believers in creationism are a distinct minority of the populace.
No, it's not. My wife and I intend to consider Creationist Christian Schools as our first choice. Homeschooling is our backup plan.
The important thing is that we do not commit the Sin of Child Abuse, by sending them to an Evolutionist School.
Then our conversation is over if you don’t think evolution is scientific based. That just ain’t correct.
I think that the Theory of Evolution is pseudo-scientific tomfoolery all-around, but my strongest objection is to Atheistic Evolutionism, not so much Theistic Evolutionism.
Creationists will have our schools.
Theistic Evolutionists will have theirs.
Atheistic Evolutionists are not very numerous to begin with, and don't breed many children.
Give us our Money back, and he who pays the piper calls the tune.
So where is the actual demand, not for education, but for science, going to go?
Right now there is a HUGE Free Market demand for highly trained scientists.
There is no similar demand for highly trained creationists.
That is because science produces value in terms of discover and services. Industry is interested in utilizing these discoveries in innovative ways.
Creationism produces nothing of value in terms of discovery and services. Industry therefore has no interest in hiring creationists.
Where is the Free Market demand for highly trained scientists going to go? If U.S. schools stop instructing students in science, we will have to import more scientists from China and India; but the Free Market demand for scientists is growing and will continue to grow.
How is the Free Market going to eliminate education in a subject while the Free Market is still aggressively seeking out highly trained individuals educated in that subject?
You don't really understand much about the Free Market.
That supposed sin is person dependent then. It may be you but not for others. Good luck finding one that promotes the scientific method and Christianity. We couldn’t find one.
Of course not. Teaching Evolutionism is Mental Rape.
Which is why Creationist Parents, who breed the most children, will not purchase their services -- for any amount of supposed post-graduation "payoff".
You can promise the moon, and you still won't sell any "product" if your customers think that your "product" is morally akin to Child Rape.
And we do.
Sin is not person-dependent.
But I am not in the business of telling you how to raise your children. And I don't intend to start.
Thank you.
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