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Byron York: McChrystal's Real Offense (Rules of Engagement Killing Our Troops)
The Washington Examiner ^ | Tuesday, June 22, 2010 | Byron York

Posted on 06/22/2010 6:06:11 AM PDT by kristinn

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To: Conservative_Rob
As much as I hate all the (early in the Bush part of the WOT) comparisons to the battles in the RVN - you my FRiend, are right on the money.

This carp is worse than RVN, much worse.

41 posted on 06/22/2010 8:51:23 AM PDT by ASOC (Things are not always as they appear, ask the dog chasing the car)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I think the post-modern culture is void of the concept of justice. If we enforce our laws, we are morally bad. If we act in self-defense we are morally bad. It’s actually a mental pathology: unless we are the beaten wife always blaming herself for the abuse she receives, then we are just as bad as the abuser.

In this view (especially pushed on us by the UN types), every culture is equally valid - except ours. Ours is based on this old, out-dated concept of justice, that people are free to make their choices but they will get the consequences for their choices.

I think what we’ve got now is a perverted Christianity, a worldview that is so “nice” that it knows nothing of justice. There always have been and always will be two sides to God’s character: His justice and His mercy. If you ever eliminate one side of His character you become dangerously warped. Islam is a perverted view of God’s justice alone. Liberal “Christianity” is a perverted view of God’s mercy alone.

They are both at war with the proper view of God and of the way God knows that reality has to work:

The left-hand (governmental) kingdom concerns itself with civil justice - and by “justice” I don’t mean feeding the poor. I mean justice - an eye for an eye. Every person’s rights held in equal balance with everybody else’s. A day of reckoning for those who have trampled their victims.

And the right-hand (religious) kingdom concerned for the souls of people, which means using the Law to bring bold, confident sinners to repentance and using the Gospel to bring repentant sinners to faith and a knowledge of forgiveness.

I think the world powers are mixing up the left-hand and right-hand kingdoms and totally botching up both justice and mercy. I think we’re seeing the right-hand kingdom (religion) giving its place to the left-hand kingdom (government) - which is mushing everything together so they are punishing the innocent and rewarding the guilty. The one and only time God ever condoned that was the one-time sacrifice of His Son taking the capital sentence for all sinners, so God could satisfy the requirement of justice while still showing mercy to all of us who deserved punishment. It was God taking His OWN “money” (the riches of His grace) and lavishly pouring it out for those who didn’t deserve it. Those who - because they KNOW they don’t deserve it - have not an entitlement mentality but a profound thanks for that gift of love which changes their whole life.

The government now is trying to be God, but they don’t have any “money” of their own. All they can do is take from one person and give to somebody else. Steal from the innocent to pay the guilty. That’s not mercy, and it’s not justice. All it can be is somebody pretending to be God, unable to do what God does because they are not God.

It’s a dysfunctional view of reality that most people are under, being pressed on us by a culture that is anti-Christian. As more and more people lose the Christian worldview the world gets crazier and crazier. We will (if we haven’t already) reach a point of no return, where the depravity will reach its logical conclusion.


42 posted on 06/22/2010 8:56:35 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: frposty

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/06/22/4544314-mcchrystals-pr-man-resigns-how-rolling-stone-got-more-access?ocid=twitter

Hastings says he stumbled onto unprecedented access with McChrystal. After McChrystal’s press advisers accepted a request for the profile, Hastings joined McChrystal and his team in Paris. It was supposed to be a two-day visit, followed up with more time in Afghanistan.

The volcano in Iceland, however, changed those plans. As the ash disrupted air travel, Hastings ended up being “stuck” with McChrystal and his team for 10 days in Paris and Berlin. McChrystal had to get to Berlin by bus. Hastings says McChrystal and his aides were drinking on the road trip “the whole way.”

“They let loose,” he said. “I don’t blame them; they have a hard job.”

Hastings then traveled with McChrystal in Afghanistan for more time. What was supposed to be a two-day visit, turned into a month, in part due to disruptions of the volcano.

Hastings says McChrystal was very “candid” with him and knew their conversations were for reporting purposes. “Most of the time I had a tape recorder in his face or a notebook in my hand,” he said.

Hastings says most of the critical comments, which are now causing a stir, were said in the first 24 hours or so. “It wasn’t a case of charming him into anything,” Hastings said.


43 posted on 06/22/2010 9:11:36 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: WalterSkinner
..welcome back to 1968...

...and get ready for 1973...

44 posted on 06/22/2010 9:16:34 AM PDT by norton
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To: kristinn

Rush discussing all this right now- he’s heard that

A- McChrystal wrote these ROE’s and/or
B- McChrystal hates the ROE’s and has let the Pentagon know it

Take your choice..


45 posted on 06/22/2010 9:17:41 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: kristinn

Micromanagement favoring nebulous diplomacy over getting the job done and protecting our troops. Victory abandoned in favor of stalemate as the highest possible goal.

That and more is the essence of why we lost an eminently winnable war in Viet Nam.


46 posted on 06/22/2010 9:27:00 AM PDT by walford (http://natural-law-natural-religion.blogspot.com/)
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To: butterdezillion
Wow! That is a really good assessment on your part. I had only considered perverted Christianity as it relates to our churches and their decline. You clearly point out that a Republic founded on authentic Judaism/Christianity will decline as well if it begins to follow the perverted versions of those religions. Well done!

Sad thing is, it appears to be too late to stop it. It reminds me a bit of the Cold War. Most people believed the Soviets would ultimately triumph over the West. It took Reagan to adopt a bold new strategy of calling the Soviets the "evil Empire" and having the foresight to see the failure of communism. I think we are in a similar boat now as we were in the pre-Reagan days. We are going through the motions of a "war on terror" as we did the "cold war", but with the belief that we will probably be over-run by the Muzzies sometime in the future. Unless we get a new Reagan-which seems unlikely.

47 posted on 06/22/2010 9:36:55 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

This time the evacuation choppers are on a timeline though. ;-)


48 posted on 06/22/2010 12:21:40 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: frposty

Had he dropped them in American Spectator, would the left have noticed? Ya got to drop them where the enemy lie.


49 posted on 06/22/2010 6:37:51 PM PDT by GregoryFul
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