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Experts review S.C. Senate ballots
Politico ^ | June 11, 2010 | David Catanese

Posted on 06/11/2010 12:08:05 PM PDT by jazusamo

The campaign of defeated Democratic Senate candidate Vic Rawl has assembled a team of national academic experts to review Tuesday’s perplexing South Carolina primary results that propelled a virtually unknown, underfunded and unemployed candidate to the party’s nomination over a veteran officeholder and public official.

Rawl campaign manager Walter Ludwig tells POLITICO three different teams of experts in election data analysis are combing through the results in the state’s 46 counties and already turning up some eye-opening trend lines.

The review is in response to the shocking victory by 32-year-old Alvin Greene, who, despite never giving a campaign speech or running any television or radio ads, managed to handily defeat Rawl 59 percent to 41 percent. The state party chairwoman has already asked Greene to step aside, and Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) has speculated that he might be a Republican plant.

Greene has pledged to remain in the race and said he has “always been a Democrat.”

While Ludwig cautioned that the campaign is not jumping to any conclusions, he said the experts, who volunteered their services, have already uncovered some “curious” findings in the election data.

One potential red flag: A significant difference between the results of absentee and election day ballots.

According to Ludwig, of the state’s 46 counties, half have a disparity of greater than 10 percentage points between the absentee and election day ballots.

“The election day ballots all favor Mr. Greene. We don’t know what it means,” Ludwig said in an interview. “We did significantly better on absentees than Election Day, which is according to the mathematicians, quite significant. The other reason is, it didn’t happen in any other races on the ballot.”

In Lancaster County, Rawl won absentee ballots over Greene by a staggering 84 percent to 16 percent margin; but Greene easily led among Election Day voters by 17 percentage points.

In Spartanburg County, Ludwig said there are 25 precincts in which Greene received more votes than were actually cast and 50 other precincts where votes appeared to be missing from the final count.

“In only two of 88 precincts, do the number of votes Greene got plus the number we got equal the total cast,” Ludwig said.

Greene also racked up a 75 percent or greater margin in one-seventh of all precincts statewide, a mark that Ludwig notes is even difficult for an incumbent to reach.

“This may add up to nothing. This all could be a clerical error. We don’t know but thought it was worth looking into,” said Ludwig, who added that the experts doing the unpaid research asked that their names not be revealed until they disclose their conclusions.

Ludwig said the experts could be prepared to offer their findings by late Friday but cautioned that it’s likely not to be definitive.

“These are not detectives, they look at huge amounts of election data that say this doesn’t look like it should, or it does,” he said.

Asked what else could explain Greene’s unlikely rise, Ludwig appeared to be at a loss.

He said the campaign sent out 300,000 e-mails, conducted a quarter -million robocalls and logged nearly 17,000 miles to Democratic events around the state.

“I was tracking the guy everywhere and there was nothing to track. Am I kicking myself in the ass? Sure. I’m just not sure what we would’ve done different,” he said.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: alvingreene; congress; democrats; elections; elections2010; greene; primary; rawl; sc; senate; southcarolina; ussenate
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Gosh, when more votes are counted than what's supposed to be in the precinct the Democrat is supposed to win. Wait, he did. LOL!
1 posted on 06/11/2010 12:08:05 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

He was the black Democratic candidate. Huge advantage, maybe enough to get the votes he needed.

I thought his interviews were really amusing. He said, in a barely literate manner of speech, all of the right code words: jobs, edjication, etc. He might be a political idiot savant. Beats being broke.


2 posted on 06/11/2010 12:10:10 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: jazusamo
Kevin Gray, a prominent black activist and author in South Carolina, says he voted for Greene. "When I was in the voting booth I looked at both those names," he says. "I'd seen Vic Rawl on Facebook before, but Alvin Greene, that name looked black." http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/11/who-is-alvin-greene-south-carolina-paper-fills-in-some-blanks/
3 posted on 06/11/2010 12:10:46 PM PDT by evets (beer)
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“The election day ballots all favor Mr. Greene. We don’t know what it means”

Yeah. Democrat ballot fraud is largely accomplished with the absentee ballots. So this must be republicans huh...

Was the Party democrat a white guy?


4 posted on 06/11/2010 12:12:09 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: jazusamo

democrats try to lynch Senate candidate’s bid.


5 posted on 06/11/2010 12:12:58 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: evets

Yeah, Vic Rawl is a white-looking white guy. So SC blacks voted for the black on election day.

No surprise there...


6 posted on 06/11/2010 12:13:04 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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Love it! "That name looked black." Black enough for Gray.

7 posted on 06/11/2010 12:13:09 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Yeah, the guy the SC Dem establishment wanted is White. They don’t want the Black guy. Hmm, what would we call THAT ?


8 posted on 06/11/2010 12:13:34 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: evets

That’s hilarious. :-)


9 posted on 06/11/2010 12:14:15 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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10 posted on 06/11/2010 12:14:44 PM PDT by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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DamnSouthwern Democrats. Just another lynching of a black man.


11 posted on 06/11/2010 12:14:49 PM PDT by TheGeezer
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Aren’t you glad we’re in the post-racial America?


12 posted on 06/11/2010 12:15:06 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: jazusamo

Need some popcorn to watch this farce unfold.

Bring in the ‘experts’ to build a case for the outcome you had planned on seeing, but somehow didn’t come about. That’s a good libtard tactic...

Vote counts that add up to more votes than were cast. That’s an ACORN tactic...

Huge disparity between Election Day counts and absentee ballots. That’s a DhimmiRat tactic.

Seems like all their chickens came home to roost... And, the manure is just getting deeper.


13 posted on 06/11/2010 12:15:19 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

More votes CAST than voters in the district? But isn’t that NORMAL for the democrat party??!!!


14 posted on 06/11/2010 12:15:52 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Follow the money....When Greene filled out the form in the criminal porn case, disclosed his assets and got a public defender, he lied about his finances. If he had $10K in the bank, he wouldn’t have gotten a PD.

More popcorn please.


15 posted on 06/11/2010 12:17:06 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: jazusamo

So where are the media types excoriating the democrat party for working to UNSEAT the BLACK winner??!!! Isn’t this RAAAAACIST??!!


16 posted on 06/11/2010 12:17:32 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: jazusamo

It could also mean the people were ready for anyone but Rawls... I have live in the area before and I believe this could be the biggest reason.


17 posted on 06/11/2010 12:18:15 PM PDT by Ingtar (If he could have taxed it, Obama's hole would have been plugged by now.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Rep. Clyburn has said he believes Greene was a “plant.” This is too rich. The MSM has tried to ignore the fact that the Dems nominated an illiterate black pervert. Now they want to “investigate. This is perfect. I think Clyburn is the plant.
18 posted on 06/11/2010 12:18:26 PM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: evets
Ok now somebody is just making up stuff here to see if he can sneak it past the editor. Kevin Gray...says Alvin Greene...sounds like he's black?
19 posted on 06/11/2010 12:19:32 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jazusamo
Let's see .... Hmmmmm ... Should I vote for an unemployed felon with no detectable skills or ability, or should I vote for a career politician? It's really a no-brainer .... I'll go with the felon.
20 posted on 06/11/2010 12:20:21 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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