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New government entity to take control over military and civilian networks
Tech 1984 ^ | 5/31/10 | Tech 1984

Posted on 06/07/2010 9:29:58 PM PDT by oc-flyfish

This is pretty scary stuff. The Federal government is ready to seize control of private company networks in order to "protect" us in the event of a hacker attack.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilliberties; communication; constitution; cybercom; emergencyprep; hugoland; socialistblitzkrieg
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To: antiRepublicrat

When we fought the first revolutionary war the latency between Britain and the colonies was something like 3 months.


141 posted on 06/08/2010 9:09:56 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 502 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Clint Williams
"Fidonet?

Yup! Dat's what I was using. Was on a bunch of boards, mostly politics, psychology, Science and stuff. Enjoyed the chatter. I often wondered where all those folks went? Some of the posters were legends.

142 posted on 06/08/2010 9:10:49 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: antiRepublicrat
It's the old "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes driving down the highway" networking canard.

Guess we'd have to call that one tire-net.

"I sent you that in tire-net"

"Internet? You mean you emailed it?"

"No, in TIRE-net!"

143 posted on 06/08/2010 9:13:51 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Sorry bro, but I have worked at a government entity before and have seen the incompetence first hand. Plus, the government workers (contract and federal) are usually behind the time in relation to the equipment they have due to the procurement process.


144 posted on 06/08/2010 9:14:37 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: Clint Williams

A system of worldwide relay systems connected via phone lines. They would pass newsgroup discussions and email by calling each other periodically.

Way before the Internet was available.


145 posted on 06/08/2010 9:17:22 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: zeugma

That would be difficult though. Perhaps something like this:

Multiple offshore servers (DNS, hosting, email) in multiple countries that would not just pull the plug when asked by the State dept. DNS A records would round robin between various IPs that would be changed on a frequent basis.

There are some weak points but that may be a start.


146 posted on 06/08/2010 9:24:58 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: Disambiguator
Yes, you've earned your geek points today. My old TAPR TNC is fitted with a KISS ROM. I really have to use a working copy of Phil Karn's NET/NOS code to use it. The advent of better DSP techniques and interfacing between PC sound card<->ham radio has made the dedicated hardware mostly unnecessary. I would still like to get my hands on a multi-function controller that does AX.25 packet, AMTOR, PACTOR, PSK-31, AFSK teletype and other common formats.
147 posted on 06/08/2010 9:26:16 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: null and void

That I knew you knew that I knew you knew...and could not resist telling you so. LOL


148 posted on 06/08/2010 9:27:32 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: LibLieSlayer
My husband and I are also hams, and I read the literature pretty regularly.

I have never read in any of the literature about confiscation, neither the various monthly magazines nor any of our history books. Hams being a pretty fussy bunch about their gear, I would expect to have seen something about it in one of the historical articles or in an editorial by one of the more hot-headed writers.

A quick check online of the various sites (ARRL, MARS, DXCC) indicates that the U.S. government DID confiscate radios during WWI, including commercial stations, but not a word about WWII.

I guess it could have happened if somebody violated the Congressional order to get off the air.

149 posted on 06/08/2010 9:29:48 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: oc-flyfish
Multiple offshore servers (DNS, hosting, email) in multiple countries that would not just pull the plug when asked by the State dept.

Read Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon. Part of the plot has to do with the establishment of that arrangement.

150 posted on 06/08/2010 9:30:44 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2aberro
Forget GPS. When the SHTF they will shut it down. The Military id already launching new GPS sats that will not be available to the public.
151 posted on 06/08/2010 9:35:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't go chasing waterfalls.....)
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To: oc-flyfish
Sorry bro, but I have worked at a government entity before and have seen the incompetence first hand.

There's a big difference between regular bureaucratic government, and operational defense government. The latter is more military-style, get-it-done. When I saw it they had the latest firewalls, IDS and routers, and some high-speed people to run them. The response I saw to Code Red was fast and efficient, and the network made it relatively unscathed.

Contrast that with local bureaucrat networks, where I Love You took them down by the hundreds. These are the people who set up unsecured wireless, set up wide-open proxy servers, and do all other manner of stupid stuff. They just make the job of the computer security people harder.

152 posted on 06/08/2010 9:35:33 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: 1951Boomer

Rachel Madcow.


153 posted on 06/08/2010 9:35:53 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't go chasing waterfalls.....)
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To: MestaMachine

Precisely.


154 posted on 06/08/2010 9:36:48 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 502 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: zeugma

“Time to look at fidonet again. Problem is, I don’t even own a modem anymore.”

That’s what I was thinking too. Direct dial BBS. However if they are in lockdown enough to shut down servers, they will have activated martial law to take over phone lines as well.

And then the poster also just said that they forbid ham radio in WWII.


155 posted on 06/08/2010 9:36:54 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf aInd dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Quix
We know each other by our screen names on FR, yet few of us have met in person. Absent FR, the network and associations dissolve into thin air. The LDS stake arrangement was based on being prepared to react in a severe emergency to account for all the folks in the stake. A practice run occurs twice each year. Messages are planted with a few people and passed back to the stake leadership as sort of a check. As an aside, the hams in the stake are also active in ARES, RACES and some in Animal Rescue Reserve.

The 8 hour FR outage this week reminded me how much FR is a key part of my connection to current events.

156 posted on 06/08/2010 9:37:45 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: markomalley

Fidonet was what I thought last night while dozing. I think clearer when I’m barely thinking. Go figure. I just haven’t thought of these processes in decades now. And I wasn’t a genius at it then, just a dorky computer geek who played around and found a whole new group to play D&D with on the BBS boards.

Oh God, I really was a dork wasn’t I? LOL


157 posted on 06/08/2010 9:40:00 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf aInd dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Myrddin
Phil Karn, I haven't heard that name in years. I don't do radio, but I am very interested in cryptography. Therefore I know him for suing the government over the export of the code in Bruce Schneier's book Applied Cryptography on disk. He won, not the case itself in court, but he got the administration to drop the stupid rules.

Ah, Schneier, another geek hero of mine.

158 posted on 06/08/2010 9:42:59 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: MestaMachine; null and void
Then of course you both must know that I knew that you both knew that you both knew...but I bet neither of you knew it's my carrier pigeon that's psychic... : D
159 posted on 06/08/2010 9:44:54 AM PDT by 88keys (they will pry my salt shaker from my cold dead hands)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Katz, I think, not Karn, if you’re thinking of the PKZIP guy.


160 posted on 06/08/2010 9:46:16 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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