Posted on 06/03/2010 1:08:24 PM PDT by presidio9
Commissioner Bud Selig won't reverse an umpire's admitted blown call that cost Armando Galarraga a perfect game. Selig said Thursday that Major League Baseball will look at expanded replay and umpiring, but didn't specifically address umpire Jim Joyce's botched call Wednesday night.
A baseball official familiar with the decision confirmed to The Associated Press that the call was not being reversed. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because that element was not included in Selig's statement.
Joyce said he erred on what would've been the final out in Detroit, where the Tigers beat Cleveland 3-0. The umpire personally apologized to Galarraga and hugged him after the game, then took the field at Comerica Park on Thursday in tears.
Detroit general manager Dave Dombrowski had said the team wouldn't ask MLB to overturn the call. The mistake denied Galarraga the 21st perfect game in history, and the first for the Tigers.
Joyce ruled Cleveland's Jason Donald safe at first base, but later said he got it wrong. Even in the sports world, where bad calls are part of the mix, this one reached way beyond the lines: the perfect game that wasn't.
Galarraga, who was barely known outside of Detroit before this week, and Joyce, whose career had flourished in relative anonymity, remained trending topics on Twitter more than 12 hours after the game ended. At least one anti-Joyce Facebook page popped up and
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But I believe they could change the scoring of the hit to an error, thus giving Galarraga a no-hitter.
Like any other form of entertainment there is an off and on button. I choose the off button as do the majority of people. Who, like myself, just don't care about the game. If you do good for you. Have fun.
I do care that my tax dollars are used to build and maintain stadiums for this kind of activity. I'd prefer that the people in the sports business not be on welfare just like I'd hope nobody else is.
Sure you can. It only happened yesterday. It’s simple. It’s easy. And it’s clearly the virtuous thing to do. But it’s never been done. His will is too weak and his mind is too small. He’s a stupid old man. Pathetic. Extremely pathetic in fact.
Mind you I hate the Tigers, just a fan of accuracy and an opponent of being blinded by convention.
Best SS ever at turning the double play (as opposed to starting it).
Omar's ability to stop his forward momentum and jump straight up from behind the bag to clear the sliding runner, then launch a strong throw at the peak of his jump was amazing. Nobody ever did it thatta way.
Best current day SS at turning the double play: Jack (No Hands) Wilson.
Why only 1 DH? If a DH is a good thing, let's have 9 of them!
The poor judgement in this case, was the umpiring crew's unwillingness to do this. Anyone can make a mistake, a real jerk fails to correct it. Why do managers argue calls if umps will NEVER correct them?
So, Leland should have gone to the ump, stood between the ump and the jumbotron and said, "While I pretend to argue with you, you watch the replay over my shoulder and the pretend that I made such a forceful arguement that you were convinced to appeal the call to the home plate ump. Tell him to over-rule you and call it an out."
Problem solved.
I agree. If everyone agrees the call was obviously wrong, the commish, every player in the game and all of the fans, even the batter, why are many standing by the wrong done? The at-bat after the bad-call was an out anyway and doesn't play into the decision.
It is a very simple thing to do, like you said, a virtuous thing to do.
Selig declared an All-Star game a tie yet he cannot do this simple thing.
The highly visible umpire to umpire question/answer/decision sequence takes no more than a few seconds. Once an umpire signals the question to another umpire, that other umpire takes responsibility for giving an honest answer - and that answer should end the matter.
Picture a checked swing situation when the plate umpire signals (points to another umpire) the question. The other umpire can then signal ball or strike - and that's it.
I can’t even think of a good reason not to do it. Every reason I’ve heard I roll my eyes at. Buster Olney said “oh then do you go back and change the the 1985 World Series?”. Really lame reasoning. “But there were 28 batters”. But the game should have ended. At bats get erased when there’s an early inning rainout so why not now?
One guy even said it’s such a good sportsmanship lesson (which it is I guess, Milt Pappas is still pissed, I’m with him but Galaragga has shown a lot of character) it should be left alone for that reason. That’s just silly imo.
I wish Selig would retire.
time for old bud to go for sure. that ‘85 comparison drives me up a wall also!! not even CLOSE!!! there is no reason I can see why this kid should not get awarded that perfecto.....unless it is the reason always given, and I do not agree with it, that umpires are human, mistakes by them has always been part of the game etc. etc. in THIS event tho, the change could be made without upsetting the ‘sanctity’ of the game or it’s traditions. it was the last batter of the game, it was not a disputed strike or ball in the 3rd or 6th inning, or a foul/fair hit in the 1st. I am a lifelong MLB fan and memorized stats and numbers as a kid endlessly, (I could read thru a list of players stats, league leaders etc. and have ‘em down pat without any effort but school work? hopeless!!), and have always wanted current players stats to be earned just as hard as the old timers were, (this steroid thing REALLY pisses me off), so I am a ‘numbers’ guy. I did not like it one bit when the DH came in in ‘73. so even with my old time feelings about the games numbers being consistent etc. I STILL want this kid to get that perfect game. it would not hurt the game to give it to him one bit. he showed tremendous class on how he handled the entire thing also.
Everyone involved has handled it with class, except for Bud. Bud fugged this one up as bad as the ump , except he hasn't the balls to admit it.
You're cherry-picking a best case scenario and then presenting it as the norm, but it just so happens that this is the perfect case. I can't remember the last time a manager argued about a checked-bat call. Normally, the final word on checked bats comes from third base for left handed hitters, and first base for righties. The are in the best position to make the call. I generally question three or four of those calls in every game, so I assume managers do the same. But we all live with it, because the calls balance out over time, and its not worth disrupting the continuity of the game. Even when my guy gets called out with runners on base.
Not correct. If it was the plate umpires call (strike or no strike) rule 9.02(c) says it has to be the plate umpire that makes the final call (watch his hand when it happens).
Same goes for first base situation. If the FB umpire asks, it is the FB umpires's responsibility to make the final call.
PS ... Regarding the word "final," I'm quoting a tattered 1973 rulebook.
It was the second basemans ball.If the first baseman did what any other first baseman would do(cover first) the runner would have been out by 2 or 3 steps. End of game.
I was wrong in post seven ... sorry.
I was wrong in post seven ... sorry
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