Posted on 06/03/2010 11:38:56 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
WASHINGTON – According to the Social Security Administration (SSA), the first three digits of every Social Security number (SSN) indicates the state in which the person resides. Only one number may be issued to any given person, even in the event of identity theft, and numbers are never “recycled” after a person dies.
The instructions accompanying the application to apply for an original SSN, apply for a replacement card, and change or correct information on a SSN record are riddled with the term “you must.”
The instructions begin by stating, “IMPORTANT: You MUST provide a properly completed application and the required evidence before we can process your application. We can only accept original documents or documents certified by the custodian of the original record. Notarized copies or photocopies which have not been certified by the custodian of the records are not acceptable.”
It goes on to state, “To apply for an original card, you must provide at least two documents to prove age, identity, and U.S. citizenship or current lawful, work-authorized immigration status. If you are not a U.S. citizen and do not have DHS work authorization, you must prove you have a valid non-work reason for requesting a card.”
It specifically points out, “If you are 12 or older and have never received a SSN, you must apply in person.”
In January 2005, President Bush signed Public Law 108-458, the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, which required the Secretary of Health and Human Services, in consultation with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Commissioner of Social Security and others, “to promulgate regulation establishing minimum standards for birth certificates,” which, among other things, mandated a requirement for proof and verification of identity as a condition of issuance of a birth certificate.
Public Law 108-458 limited the number of replacement SSN cards issued to any individual to three per year and 10 for the life of the individual, while establishing minimum standards for the verification of documents or records submitted by an individual to establish eligibility for an original or replacement SSN card, other than for enumeration at birth (EAB).
The Commissioner of Social Security was required to add death indicators to the SSN verification systems used by employers and state agencies issuing driver’s licenses and identity cards and allowed the commissioner discretion to add death indicators to other verification routines “as determined appropriate.”
The commissioner was also required to add fraud indicators to the SSN verification systems and make improvements to the EAB application process so as to “prevent the assignment of SSNs to unnamed children, the issuance of more than one SSN to the same child, and other opportunities for fraudulently obtaining a SSN.”
Additionally, the law prohibited federal, state and local governments from displaying SSNs on drivers’ licenses, motor vehicle registrations or other identification documents issued by state departments of motor vehicles.
SSN applicants must provide a birth certificate for evidence of age and, as proof of identity, a U.S. driver’s license, a U.S. state-issued non-driver identity card, or a U.S. passport.
The instructions state, “If you are not a U.S. citizen, we must see your current U.S. immigration document(s) and your foreign passport with biographical information or photograph.”
In all caps it emphasizes, “We cannot accept a birth certificate, hospital souvenir birth certificate, social security card stub or social security record” as evidence of identity.
For evidence of immigration status, applicants must provide a current unexpired document issued by the DHS. If an international student or exchange visitor, additional documents may be required.
It states, “If you are not authorized to work in the U.S., we can issue you a Social Security card only if you need the number for a valid non-work reason. Your card will be marked to show you cannot work and if you do work, we will notify DHS.”
Sonoran News contacted a congressional aide to ask if elected representatives, upon being elected and placed on the U.S. taxpayer-funded payroll, were required to fill out Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.
The instructions accompanying Form I-9 provide answers about the purpose of the form and when it should be used.
According to those instructions, “All employees (citizens and noncitizens) hired after November 6, 1986, and working in the United States must complete Form I-9.”
No exceptions are noted.
After contacting Member Services for the U.S. House of Representatives, the aide said she was told members are not required to fill out a Form I-9.
She was told the reason the House does not require a Form I-9 from its members is because the Constitution requires anyone who runs for a seat in the House to be a U.S. citizen for a minimum of seven years. And, when a person runs for office, they must file proof with their state’s election office that they meet the requirements of the office.
However that does not appear to be the case. If it were, Roger Calero, a Nicaraguan national and convicted felon, wouldn’t have been able to appear on the ballot as the Socialist Worker's Party candidate for president of the United States in numerous states. No one appears to be responsible for certifying, under penalty of perjury, that he has examined one document from List A or one each from List B and C, and that the documents presented appear genuine and relate to the candidate, who simply signs a document swearing to be eligible.
There is no apparent law or written policy that exempts members of Congress or other elected officials on taxpayer-funded payrolls from filling out a Form I-9.
Sonoran News continues to seek answers regarding Obama’s fraudulent use of another person’s SSN, the use of which has been cemented in with his fraudulently created Selective Service registration.
Maybe the beast doesn’t age...
You might be onto something there...
Sven,
Really interesting stuff!
Do you have a link for this information?
ping
alright Sven, is this true? Sources?
How did Obie get admitted to the US as an Indonesia Refugee if his mother stayed in Indonesia? What would qualify him as a refugee? Economic hardship is not enough of a reason. Where are you getting your ideas from?
That might be true now, but not when this number was issued. It took me all of one minute to find this on the SSA website:
The Area Number is assigned by the geographical region. Prior to 1972, cards were issued in local Social Security offices around the country and the Area Number represented the State in which the card was issued. This did not necessarily have to be the State where the applicant lived, since a person could apply for their card in any Social Security office.
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html
Not a dumb question.
The first three numbers represent the state the applicant applied from ..but those aren’t the only three numbers used for that state. I received my SS# in CA, and it’s first three digits are 565..but 565 isn’t the only first set of digits used for this state. SSA says they’ve issued so far over 400 million numbers and expect this system to be adequate enough to last several generations. For instance.. they could just start using more combinations of three numbers and assigning them to the states.
Sven..
Good one.... I’m sure a woman employed as a bank manager would really feel herself eligible for AFDC. :)
rolling_stone,
I Googled “American Resettlement Organization” and got this link to website about refugees, how they get here, etc.
http://www.refugees.org/newsroomsub.aspx?id=1082
An excerpt from the site:
“III. Refugee Resettlement in the U.S.
Being Matched with an American Resettlement Organization
Detailed information on all refugees approved for US resettlement is sent to the Refugee Data Center (RDC) in New York. RDC matches refugees with one of ten voluntary agencies
(link to list of agencies:http://www.refugees.org/article.aspx?id=1088)
that provide reception and placement services for refugees coming to the US.”
Wonder if anybody has researched the Refugee Data Center & how far back their records go?
You don't think there isn't a whole lot of cheatin' goin' on out there?
You can't conceive that a pair of socialist grandparents wouldn't be prepared to game the system?
Doesn't make any difference whether they were eligible or not -- only if the scam was feasible.
It's not where one is born, it's where one is residing when the application is made. Today, that's quite likely to be the same general place where one was born, since the SSN# is generally applied for soon after birth by the parents. But in the "old days", it was the office which processed you application, but since then it's been tied to the place you listed as your return address on your application. In those "old days", and some not so old, a person didn't get a SSN until they started earning money, so rarely any younger than 12, and that was mostly for girls needing to report babysitting income (the few that did that is).
It wouldn’t make sense. This just feeds the popular misconception that Obama came from a poor background. He likes to feed that perception when he talks about a brief time his mom was on food stamps. Any poverty on the part of Ann Dunham was pretty much voluntary.. She was a gypsy free spirit sort. Obama was very comfortably middle class...attended a pricey school and was advantaged compared to most Americans.
I don’t see how Obie could be a refugee...what was he feeing from? His mom was in Indonesia if he was fleeing from Indonesia, she could just return home to the US and get Obie a green card and he could be naturalized shortly thereafter..it doesn’t make sense to me..
Look, I'm not saying it happened.
But there are a lot of middle (and upper middle) class people who receive food stamps and AFDC.
These are the two of the most abused programs in government -- after Medicare.
You wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. But, given the Dunhams' socialist beliefs, I've no doubt they were capable of sponging off the system.
bump
Barry and his associates have no conscience.
But BO never resided in CT or anywhere near there until he attended Columbia, which was well after 1972. So what was he doing applying for the SSN in CT?
Remember he was born in 1961, so in '72 he'd have been 11. The SSN was not required on parents/guardians tax return until 1986. BO's first job was supposedly at a Baskin-Robbins in Hawaii. He would have been at least 16, making it 1977 at the earliest. More likley closer to 79 or 80.
rolling_stone,
SvenMagnussen didn’t post any links to his info yet, so I figured I would post the link I found, as a place to start checking, to see if there was any (remote) possibility of 0 being a refugee.
Where is there proof that his father lived in Conn ? Even if he did, it would make no sense. These are the steps that would have to have been followed:
It seems the number was issued sometime between 1976 and 1977. Therefore, the only way he could have that number issued was if he had a mailing address in Conn. Now a little common sense has to be used here. Say you are a 16 year old looking to get his first job. Do you
(a) Go to the nearest Social Security office and fill out the form in order to get the card as fast as possible so you can get that summer job as fast as possible; or
(b) (1) Have someone on the mainland fill out the card for you
(2) Once filled out, they have to mail it back to you for your signature
(3) You then send it back to them with your birth certificate (that is needed in applying for a social security number )
(4) He then files the form, but instead of putting your address on it as the mailing address so that the card is sent directly to you, a Conn. mailing address is put on the application
(5) The card is sent to the mailing address in Conn and is then sent on to you in Hawaii.
If he was applying for his social security number, wouldn't a normal person go through procedue (a). Even if for some reason they chose the (b) option, wouldn't you at least put the mailing address as Hawaii so the card would be sent straight to you ?
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