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Still seeking an explanation for Obama's SSN 042-68-4425
Sonoran News ^ | June 2, 2010 | LINDA BENTLEY

Posted on 06/03/2010 11:38:56 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

WASHINGTON – According to the Social Security Administration (SSA), the first three digits of every Social Security number (SSN) indicates the state in which the person resides. Only one number may be issued to any given person, even in the event of identity theft, and numbers are never “recycled” after a person dies.

The instructions accompanying the application to apply for an original SSN, apply for a replacement card, and change or correct information on a SSN record are riddled with the term “you must.”

The instructions begin by stating, “IMPORTANT: You MUST provide a properly completed application and the required evidence before we can process your application. We can only accept original documents or documents certified by the custodian of the original record. Notarized copies or photocopies which have not been certified by the custodian of the records are not acceptable.”

It goes on to state, “To apply for an original card, you must provide at least two documents to prove age, identity, and U.S. citizenship or current lawful, work-authorized immigration status. If you are not a U.S. citizen and do not have DHS work authorization, you must prove you have a valid non-work reason for requesting a card.”

It specifically points out, “If you are 12 or older and have never received a SSN, you must apply in person.”

In January 2005, President Bush signed Public Law 108-458, the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004, which required the Secretary of Health and Human Services, in consultation with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Commissioner of Social Security and others, “to promulgate regulation establishing minimum standards for birth certificates,” which, among other things, mandated a requirement for proof and verification of identity as a condition of issuance of a birth certificate.

Public Law 108-458 limited the number of replacement SSN cards issued to any individual to three per year and 10 for the life of the individual, while establishing minimum standards for the verification of documents or records submitted by an individual to establish eligibility for an original or replacement SSN card, other than for enumeration at birth (EAB).

The Commissioner of Social Security was required to add death indicators to the SSN verification systems used by employers and state agencies issuing driver’s licenses and identity cards and allowed the commissioner discretion to add death indicators to other verification routines “as determined appropriate.”

The commissioner was also required to add fraud indicators to the SSN verification systems and make improvements to the EAB application process so as to “prevent the assignment of SSNs to unnamed children, the issuance of more than one SSN to the same child, and other opportunities for fraudulently obtaining a SSN.”

Additionally, the law prohibited federal, state and local governments from displaying SSNs on drivers’ licenses, motor vehicle registrations or other identification documents issued by state departments of motor vehicles.

SSN applicants must provide a birth certificate for evidence of age and, as proof of identity, a U.S. driver’s license, a U.S. state-issued non-driver identity card, or a U.S. passport.

The instructions state, “If you are not a U.S. citizen, we must see your current U.S. immigration document(s) and your foreign passport with biographical information or photograph.”

In all caps it emphasizes, “We cannot accept a birth certificate, hospital souvenir birth certificate, social security card stub or social security record” as evidence of identity.

For evidence of immigration status, applicants must provide a current unexpired document issued by the DHS. If an international student or exchange visitor, additional documents may be required.

It states, “If you are not authorized to work in the U.S., we can issue you a Social Security card only if you need the number for a valid non-work reason. Your card will be marked to show you cannot work and if you do work, we will notify DHS.”

Sonoran News contacted a congressional aide to ask if elected representatives, upon being elected and placed on the U.S. taxpayer-funded payroll, were required to fill out Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.

The instructions accompanying Form I-9 provide answers about the purpose of the form and when it should be used.

According to those instructions, “All employees (citizens and noncitizens) hired after November 6, 1986, and working in the United States must complete Form I-9.”

No exceptions are noted.

After contacting Member Services for the U.S. House of Representatives, the aide said she was told members are not required to fill out a Form I-9.

She was told the reason the House does not require a Form I-9 from its members is because the Constitution requires anyone who runs for a seat in the House to be a U.S. citizen for a minimum of seven years. And, when a person runs for office, they must file proof with their state’s election office that they meet the requirements of the office.

However that does not appear to be the case. If it were, Roger Calero, a Nicaraguan national and convicted felon, wouldn’t have been able to appear on the ballot as the Socialist Worker's Party candidate for president of the United States in numerous states. No one appears to be responsible for certifying, under penalty of perjury, that he has examined one document from List A or one each from List B and C, and that the documents presented appear genuine and relate to the candidate, who simply signs a document swearing to be eligible.

There is no apparent law or written policy that exempts members of Congress or other elected officials on taxpayer-funded payrolls from filling out a Form I-9.

Sonoran News continues to seek answers regarding Obama’s fraudulent use of another person’s SSN, the use of which has been cemented in with his fraudulently created Selective Service registration.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; connecticut; criminals; fraud; identitytheft; naturalborncitizen; nojustice; obama; obamafraud; socialsecurity
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To: rolling_stone

Can a Fredom of Information request get a copy of the I09 form used when he became a federal employee?


21 posted on 06/03/2010 12:01:28 PM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: WKUHilltopper; SpaceBar

I have contacts that are “way out there” on some things (but they’re getting more “right” every day)

and the word over there is that 0bama’s dossier was completely made up from whole cloth by the CIA...

Now “why” is really relevant to this theory...


22 posted on 06/03/2010 12:02:15 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Maybe he’ll explain it in his next ‘auto’biography.


23 posted on 06/03/2010 12:12:04 PM PDT by GBA (Resistance is Constitutional!)
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To: Smokeyblue
$650 billion and climbing - Funds deposited with SSN for non-ssn numbers and fraudulent use of ssn numbers. Millions pay using 000-00-0000, and the SSA keeps taking the money.
24 posted on 06/03/2010 12:15:36 PM PDT by LowNslow (Retired CWO)
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To: neverbluffer

As far as I know it cannot due to privacy, maybe a redacted copy just showing one was filed might be accesible..I tried a long time a go to find out who has the I-9 for Congress and President and got no answers. Senators have a weird setup for their employees..but they are not exempt from the law so ICE should investigate a complaint...IMO...

A FOIA to Social security should get the regulations for obtaining a SS that were in effect in the mid 1970-s.

US State Department is dragging their feet on many requests for Obamas mamas passport info..she is deceased and her records are available under FOIA, they just keep dragging it out giving them One person has been waiting since around November 2008. Maybe if they got 100,000 requests all at once they might cough them up..It is ridiculous.


25 posted on 06/03/2010 12:24:32 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Smokeyblue

Interesting question. 042 is CT and the question is was he living there when it was issued and when was it issued? Before the laws were changed you applied for your SSN at age 15 or 16 and it was in your current state of residence, not where you were born. Your parents could not apply for them on your behalf which was why you were older when you applied for them. Combined with the refusal to release simple birth records it raises suspicions. If they have nothing to hide then why hide what would be required of anyone entering the military?


26 posted on 06/03/2010 12:26:47 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Texas resident; justlurking
It’s ok, barry can dump that ssn and just use one of his others. No biggy

Yeah, Barry O. can pull out another one like his Michigan state issued SS number.


Obama Num 364

27 posted on 06/03/2010 12:28:59 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: verga
What should his SSN begin with if he was born in Hawaii?

Hawaii 575-576

28 posted on 06/03/2010 12:34:17 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Smokeyblue
Help me here Freepers, what [in addition to the SSN#] would look good on a billboard ??

my example...

Obama's (Connecticut !?!?) SSN# 042-68-4425

29 posted on 06/03/2010 12:37:52 PM PDT by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: Smokeyblue

Slightly off-topic and related to the form I-9. My company has recently said that EVERYONE has to fill out a new I-9. Doesn’t matter if you worked there for 1month or 20 years.

It’s no big deal. It’s just.... interesting, given the news lately.

Anybody else having to do this again?


30 posted on 06/03/2010 12:41:01 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (What's black and white and red all over? - OBAMA)
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To: MrB

Why would the CIA be doing this? I thought they were on our side?? Sorry to be stupid. I have no “connections” to these folks.


31 posted on 06/03/2010 12:51:33 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: justlurking; Smokeyblue; LucyT
You can just follow just follow your tag name!

This fraud cannot be emphasized enough!!

It needs to shouted out from the rooftop every hour of the day until ALL the American people knows it!!!!!!

32 posted on 06/03/2010 12:52:02 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: SvenMagnussen; Smokeyblue

During my lifetime, (1951-1983) I have had a plethora of I-94s, yet I am still NOT eligible to run for President of the United States???


33 posted on 06/03/2010 1:01:09 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: WKUHilltopper

Hey, didn’t say _I_ believed it either.


34 posted on 06/03/2010 1:09:17 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Smokeyblue

OK!

I have a dumb question!

If the first three numbers are reserved for the issuing state, how in the hell can you get 300,000,000 differing SS numbers out of XX-XXXX??

Enquiring minds need to know!


35 posted on 06/03/2010 1:19:23 PM PDT by Noob1999 (LOOSE LIPS, SINK SHIPS)
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To: rolling_stone

I got my SSN in the late 70’s, in Texas, and I had to apply in person. My step-dad had adopted me (and my sister), so we both needed one. I was born in 70, she was born in 72, and we both had to go in person to the SS office to get a card.


36 posted on 06/03/2010 1:33:07 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: MrB
...the word over there is that 0bama’s dossier was completely made up from whole cloth by the CIA....

where or in which direction is over there?

37 posted on 06/03/2010 1:35:33 PM PDT by 1234 ("1984")
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To: 1234

On the other side of the line between “more informed” and “whacko”.


38 posted on 06/03/2010 1:38:37 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

“Hey, didn’t say _I_ believed it either.”

LOL...I wasn’t saying you did...just thinking out loud. But honestly, any more, I’m getting where I don’t trust the intent of anyone with this administration.


39 posted on 06/03/2010 1:45:21 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: RJS1950

Am I missing something...part of this article was indicating this social security number was issued in the late 70s of someone from Connecticut who was BORN in 1890.

Obama is looking pretty good for someone who is 120 years old.


40 posted on 06/03/2010 1:53:56 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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