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1 posted on 06/03/2010 8:49:00 AM PDT by ICAB9USA
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If they reverse an umpire’s call after the game, then baseball as we know it is dead.


2 posted on 06/03/2010 8:50:45 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: ICAB9USA

If they don’t reverse the call, clearly that is racism.


3 posted on 06/03/2010 8:51:36 AM PDT by Professional
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To: ICAB9USA

This is a No-brainer.

But then again, Bud Selig is a No-brainer, too.

Will this finally make him realize that baseball needs replay for safe/out, fair/foul calls?


4 posted on 06/03/2010 8:51:55 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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Tony’s wrong...you can’t overturn calls post-game....suppose the first batter of a game is called out when he was clearly safe...turns out, the pitcher throws a no-hitter..do we go back and review that first call and turn it around and take away a no-hitter??...magritte


5 posted on 06/03/2010 8:52:13 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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6 posted on 06/03/2010 8:52:14 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I lost part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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I’d be OK with overturning it but they need to start using the instant replay but only for the fair/home run calls and limited onbase calls.

Damon should have been called out at 1st earlier in the game but wasn’t.


13 posted on 06/03/2010 8:54:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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I've reviewed the video and pretty plain it was a blown call.

At one time, blown calls were considered part of the game, for better or for worse.

But since the ump has admitted his error and Selig has the power to overturn it, he should do so. One guy gets a hit negated, the next batter gets an out negated and the pitcher gets a perfect game, which he actually earned. No affect on the ultimate outcome of the game. I think this is an easy call.

16 posted on 06/03/2010 8:56:56 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Reversed calls after the game is over?

Hey, how far back are they willing to go?

As a Cardinals fan, there is a certain abysmally wrong call at first base in the 1985 World Series, which cost the Redbirds a World Series title.


19 posted on 06/03/2010 8:57:45 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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I thought the pitcher bobbled the ball, but I guess I’m the only one who thinks that. Even the umpire acknowledged that he made a bad call, but I have to disagree. Am I the only one who thinks the runner was safe because of a bobbled ball?


20 posted on 06/03/2010 8:58:12 AM PDT by thesharkboy (<-- Looking for the silver lining in every cloud, since 1998)
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I don’t think the umpires union will like the call being overturned.


28 posted on 06/03/2010 9:00:13 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than professors, politicians and preachers.)
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Just waiting to see what happens.

34 posted on 06/03/2010 9:03:00 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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This incident is reminding me of a game I heard about that involved Babe Ruth when he was still a pitcher for the Red Sox. He’d been out partying the night before and had a fearful hangover. When the umpire called a walk on the first batter, Ruth took the opportunity to argue the call and got himself thrown out of the game. The relief pitcher (I think it was Addie Joss) throws out the runner trying to steal second and then put down the next 26 batters. For years, this game was counted as a perfect game. About 10 years ago, MLB got around to cleaning up the record book and decided that this was not a perfect game.

As far as this current game goes, I wouldn’t be too upset if the umpire was overruled.


37 posted on 06/03/2010 9:03:31 AM PDT by ClubCaved
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Are they going to look at every pitch to see if the home base ump made a bad strike call that got a batter out early, thus allowing a possible perfect game? Was the strike zone to big? Were there any other questionable calls? etc...


52 posted on 06/03/2010 9:08:49 AM PDT by BushCountry ( I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparsion to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: ICAB9USA

Baseball umps should follow the example of good basketball officials and consult with the other umps. Just as in basketball, the closest ref does not always have the best view.


60 posted on 06/03/2010 9:11:15 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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One problem with allowing reversal after the game is that it doesn’t work in both directions. In this case, the game would be over, so it would be no big deal. Let’s say, however, that runner was safe and was called out? Now the game continues the next day, or the next week if the league acts slowly. However, now you have different pitchers who are rested and ready. The game’s outcome could be quite different than it would have been had the right call been made in the first place and play continued. For balls and strikes, we could just use technology and do away with umps. For outs and fouls, sensors in the foul lines and poles and players’ gloves could do the job. Then we could just hire umpires to look for balks and the like. The game would be 99.9% perfectly called, and it would stink.


82 posted on 06/03/2010 9:22:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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I’m miffed at the botched call, but to overturn the call would set a horrible precedent.


91 posted on 06/03/2010 9:30:09 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: ICAB9USA

The call needs to be overturned. This is a no-brainer.


100 posted on 06/03/2010 9:39:50 AM PDT by ILS21R
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"I wish my family was out of this," Joyce said...

What kind of scum bag would bother a guys family over...a game?

102 posted on 06/03/2010 9:41:48 AM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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Bud Selig is the Devil. It does not matter what he does on this issue - he’s screwed up baseball.


106 posted on 06/03/2010 9:49:29 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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This is a special case, but you have to be careful of precedent.

It's a special case because the blown call, which wasn't too close to call or a udgment call, would have ended the game. All plays afterward are nullified. The game ended with the next batter (didn't it?). So there are no other ramifications here.

It doesn't change the outcome of the game at all.

This would hardly be Pine Tar II (the original being a disgrace).

109 posted on 06/03/2010 9:51:41 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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