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To: ICAB9USA

Tony’s wrong...you can’t overturn calls post-game....suppose the first batter of a game is called out when he was clearly safe...turns out, the pitcher throws a no-hitter..do we go back and review that first call and turn it around and take away a no-hitter??...magritte


5 posted on 06/03/2010 8:52:13 AM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: magritte

No. Can’t do that.

But the last batter should be able to be adjusted.


10 posted on 06/03/2010 8:53:59 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: magritte; Retired Greyhound; Jeff Chandler; Professional
re: Tony’s wrong...you can’t overturn calls post-game....suppose the first batter of a game is called out when he was clearly safe...turns out, the pitcher throws a no-hitter..do we go back and review that first call and turn it around and take away a no-hitter??..

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It's a very interesting question.

This seems like just one of those sad outcomes that happens in life.

Also: The pitcher has shown great class after the game, and will receive certainn credit for that .... and for the game that he pitched.

17 posted on 06/03/2010 8:57:13 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (I lost part of my middle finger .......... it almost rendered me mute. -- Rahm Emanuel)
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To: magritte
Tony’s wrong...you can’t overturn calls post-game....

Been done before. George Brett's pinetar homerun comes to mind.

18 posted on 06/03/2010 8:57:42 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: magritte

Excellent point.


24 posted on 06/03/2010 8:59:26 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: magritte
This wasn't the first batter, this was the last batter, or should have been. And nothing of import or note occured after the blown call. Simply another out.

The commissioner of baseball is a god-like position. He can simply announce that this is a one-time only ruling that should not be used cited as a precedent for any other ruling.

The particular circumstances of this particular blown call make it a no-brainer to correct.

30 posted on 06/03/2010 9:01:07 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: magritte
I am a Tiger's fan and am disapointed for Galarraga on the call, but, the ruling needs to stand. If not, where do we end it? Is there a statute of limitations on reversing calls? Wouldn't Babe Ruth have 104 Home Runs in ONE season because he hit the foul pole multiple times and it was not considered a homerun (as it is today)?

The call should stand, IMO.

48 posted on 06/03/2010 9:06:44 AM PDT by softwarecreator (I want my greenshoots!)
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To: magritte; Jeff Chandler
you can’t overturn calls post-game

Indeed you can.

July 24, 1983 the Yankess/Royals game was called as a Yankees victory by the umpire.

The league president overturned the result and the rest of the ninth inning was played over on August 18, 1983.

In that case, the umpire was technically correct in his call and no one argued that he had made a mistake.

The result was overturned because the league president decided that the call violated the "spirit" of the rules while technically being a good call.

In this incident, the call was clearly wrong and the umpire admits that he made a colossal blunder.

Unlike the 1983 game, overturning the call would not require the replaying of part of a game, it would not alter the game's score or disadvantage any team's ranking or affect the larger season and it would not entail any "spiritual" interpretation of the rules.

If baseball as we know it survived August 18, 1983 then it would survive a much less questionable review than that one.

72 posted on 06/03/2010 9:16:29 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: magritte
you can’t overturn calls post-game....

Gallaraga (sp?) and the umpire will make the history books and forever be remembered as the guy who had his perfect game stolen by an umpire.

The other side of the coin is that he could have gone in the history books as just another guy who threw a perfect game that nobody will remember 10 years from now.

Knowing that I threw a perfect game that was stolen by an ump, I'll take the notoriety over the game anytime........

I saw the interview of Galaragga and he was a class act.. The umpire was a class act too because he searched out Galaragga later and apologized personally to him. He also conducted an interview with a radio station and he proceeded to blast himself. It sounded like he was also on the verge of tears.........he was really shook up.

76 posted on 06/03/2010 9:18:48 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Peanut butter was just peanut butter until I found Free Republic.........)
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To: magritte; All
I don't know the answer (on whether the call should be overturned, or not), but I have a more general question.

They review and change statistics all the time. For example, if a hit is "scored" as an error during the game, they can go back days later and change it to a hit. Why couldn't they consider the "Perfect Game" a statistic and change that?

Even if the keep the "call" (which we know, by rule, can't be changed) but just record the Perfect Game?

115 posted on 06/03/2010 9:58:14 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: magritte
Tony’s wrong...you can’t overturn calls post-game....suppose the first batter of a game is called out when he was clearly safe...turns out, the pitcher throws a no-hitter..do we go back and review that first call and turn it around and take away a no-hitter??...

That's a straw man argument.

Under the terms of instant replay, the play would be reviewed at that point in the game, not "the next day"!

This is, after all, why they call it instant replay!

CA....

118 posted on 06/03/2010 10:10:25 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've found that silly grin again!)
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