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Natalee Holloway Extended Discussion Thread #21
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Posted on 06/02/2010 1:42:42 PM PDT by RGVTx

This is a consolidation of the current threads on FR. It is intended to make discussion and updates easier.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526123/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2526200/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526225/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2526245/posts


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KEYWORDS: aruba; bethtwitty; captured; confession; daveholloway; extortion; extortionfrombeth; floresmurder; gitchegummee; greta; gretavansusteren; gretched; holloway; international; interpol; joran; joranconfesses; joranconfession; joranextortsbeth; joranvandersloot; jvds; jvdsconfesses; jvdsconfession; manhunt; nancygrace; natalee; nataleeholloway; peru; shango; shangocodes; shangorhymes; shangosimian; stephany; stephanyflores; vandersloot; vanderslootconfessed; vanderslootconfesses
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To: hennie pennie

In some parts of the world, when something like this happens, it is assumed that it’s the woman’s fault. Heck, there are people in the U.S. who feel that way. In some places, women are considered men’s possessions and if the woman does not do as the man demands, then he has every right to kill her. That is often the law of the land.


561 posted on 06/05/2010 7:25:40 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: toldyou

Strange how they criticize Beth Holloway for damaging Aruba rather than JVDS & their own corrupt law enforcement system that enabled Paulus VDS to help his son dance around justice.

Good tag line though: Some people get lost in thought - it’s strange territory.


562 posted on 06/05/2010 7:28:30 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: toldyou

YIKES, thanks much for that link - I’ve not read those boards since 2005; had NO idea that forum still existed -— way back when, there were lots of interesting comments & theories posed.


563 posted on 06/05/2010 7:30:32 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Here’s a link to the WS thread about it: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106085


564 posted on 06/05/2010 7:33:05 AM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: hennie pennie

***I don’t think that he beat NH to death on the beach, simply because I believe that it would have been impossible to hide all traces of blood and/or DNA evidence.***

Also: if she was buried in the marshes or at sea - her clothing, shoes etc., should have washed up somewhere (unless Daddy burned them).


565 posted on 06/05/2010 7:33:53 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: hennie pennie

Sorry, should have been clear and wish I could edit...that link is the WS link to the details about what may now be Stacy Peterson’s body being found. Peoria, IL is where they are staging - reports initially came out in TMZ, but it’s now all over local Chicagoland news apparently.


566 posted on 06/05/2010 7:40:00 AM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: hennie pennie

Then he charmed another young lady. Typical sociopath.

When I was a 19 yr. old student nurse, I spent three months at a state mental institution as part of our studies. Shortly after arriving, I will never forget meeting a very charming, intelligent man who played the piano beautifully. At first I couldn’t understand why he was there until I was told he killed people. Diagnosis: sociopath.

He’s one of the few patients I will never forget.


567 posted on 06/05/2010 7:41:50 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: No Surrender No Retreat; kcvl
NSNR - have you seen this fascinating link provided by kcvl?

http://tinyurl.com/256k37d

.............................................

* van der Straeten gets a new position in Aruba

* Paulus and Antonio dissolve their law firm

* Paulus van der Sloot suddenly & unexpectedly dies

* no autopsy

* rushed out of the country and his ashes spread around in Boxtel.

* Anita happily posting away on Facebook making jabs at Natalee

* Anita posting away on Facebook pimping herself for Richard Gere

* Anita or Joran searching Natalee's freebirds site about Santos.

Probably wondering if more of their intentional mis-direction worked.

kinky.

...................................................

I had NO idea that any of the things in that messagethread were transpiring, NO idea, it's simply outrageous.

568 posted on 06/05/2010 7:45:17 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle

“Strange how they criticize Beth Holloway for damaging Aruba”

I missed that. I only saw compassion for both families.


569 posted on 06/05/2010 7:46:15 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: mfccinsd

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2528424/posts

I took the liberty of starting a thread.

Separate, but equal;) Drew Peterson is another diabolical psychopath.


570 posted on 06/05/2010 7:46:35 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: All
Does the 'freebirds' site referenced above have a discussion forum? Anybody have a link?

I'm trying to locate an interesting board I read in 2005/06, entirely PRO-Natalee and PRO-Beth and one in which it was apparent that some of her personal friends occasionally posted.

Maybe it was on the site called "Blogs for Natalee" - but that forum is closed to public browsing, it requires registration.

Thanks all. :)

571 posted on 06/05/2010 7:48:47 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: mfccinsd
THANK YOU so very much!!! I wouldn't have found that for a few weeks, LOL

>>>> "Here's a link to the WS thread about it:"

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106085

AND HERE'S THE PRINTABLE VERSION

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - Possible Break in Stacy's case - Cops planning on a search tomorrow ----- http://www.websleuths.com/forums/printthread.php?t=106085

572 posted on 06/05/2010 8:02:45 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Sure thing :-)

I also read/post at WS and had just gotten to the Stacy Peterson reference in the Joran thread and went hunting - so figured on the off chance you hadn’t found the actual thread yet, I’d ping you to it! I know sometimes the many forums are hard to know which is the best to look in - I got lucky this time! Ha!


573 posted on 06/05/2010 8:05:00 AM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: sodpoodle; onyx; RGVTx; LucyT; STARWISE; MestaMachine; JustPiper; nw_arizona_granny; Shermy; ...
>>>>>>>>

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2528424/posts

>>> "I took the liberty of starting a thread.

Separate, but equal;)

Drew Peterson is another diabolical psychopath." <<<<<<

Sodpoodle!

Thank you so much for starting a thread about the possible discovery of the remains of Stacy Peterson, that Drew Peterson absolutely creeeeeps me out.... BIG TIME.

574 posted on 06/05/2010 8:14:30 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: mfccinsd
Thank you so much --- fact is, that I have severe difficulty with the WS forums, they just aren't "intuitive" for me.

LOL

So I bookmark specific threads from there, as I simply don't understand how to RE-locate them.

My own obvious "web-OCD" is obviously on a different path from the obvious OCD of the WS-webmaster, I find it a total MAZE filled with lots of dead-end non-thoroughfares, LOLOL

575 posted on 06/05/2010 8:18:04 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Thank YOU;)

This JVDS thread is going along so smoothly (under your pinging fine leadership) the Peterson news explosion might muck it up.

LOL!!


576 posted on 06/05/2010 8:21:54 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: toldyou; Regulator
***Then he charmed another young lady. Typical sociopath.***

>>>>>> "When I was a 19 yr. old student nurse, I spent three months at a state mental institution as part of our studies. Shortly after arriving, I will never forget meeting a very charming, intelligent man who played the piano beautifully. At first I couldn't understand why he was there until I was told he killed people. Diagnosis: sociopath.

He's one of the few patients I will never forget." <<<<<<

Hello, Regulator.

Do you by any chance have any pertinent quotes from the book THE MASK OF SANITY that you could share with us here in this thread where we are following the Joran van der Sloot Saga??

Thanks.

577 posted on 06/05/2010 8:28:13 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: sodpoodle
I fervently hope they get that creeep, how many wives has he had NOW, she was his fourth wife -- HOW did he ever have a career as a cop?????

~C~R~I~N~G~E

578 posted on 06/05/2010 8:31:42 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: mfccinsd; All
FYI - I just discovered that Scared Monkeys forum has a MOBILE text-only, FAST-2-download version, I didn't know about here, here's the URL:

SCARED MONKEYS: Forum Index ----- http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=1.0;wap2

579 posted on 06/05/2010 8:40:00 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: RGVTx; All
Has anybody seen any previews of tonight's AMW???

Is it logical to presume that John Walsh WILL spend time on Joran van der Sloot's apprehension & arrest for the murder of Stephany Flores?

Former Holloway Suspect Named In Peruvian Woman's Murder ----- http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=73111

Joran Van der Sloot, the 22-year-old who was suspected in Natalee Holloway's disappearance, is now the prime suspect in a young Peruvian woman's murder.

The Peruvian National Police confirmed to AMW that they are looking for Van der Sloot in relation to 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez's murder. Authorities said she was last seen with him at a hotel and casino located in the Miraflores district in Lima around 5:15 a.m. on Sunday, May 30, 2010.

Stephany's body was found inside of a hotel room later that same morning. Police said her car was abandoned in a neighboring district.

Peruvian officials believe Van der Sloot crossed into Chile on May 31 and have alerted authorities there.

Natalee Holloway's Disappearance Natalee, 18, vanished in May 2005 just before she was due to fly home to Alabama, at the end of her high school graduation trip to Aruba.

Natalee, of Mountain Brook, Ala., was last seen in public leaving a bar with Van der Sloot and two Surinamese brothers — Deepak and Satish Kalpoe — hours before she was due to board a flight home.

Van der Sloot was initially arrested in June 2005, then released, and then arrested again in 2007. That time, he was questioned but never charged.

In 2008, a series of conversations between Van der Sloot and a man he believed to be his friend were recorded in a Range Rover that had been rigged with three hidden cameras by Peter R. de Vries, a Dutch television crime reporter. They were shown on Dutch television. In the footage, Van der Sloot said he was with Natalee when she collapsed on a beach in Aruba. He said he believed she was dead and asked a friend to dump her body in the sea.

"She'll never be found," he said.

But Van der Sloot later said he was lying in those taped conversations and denied having anything to do with the Alabama teenager's disappearance.

580 posted on 06/05/2010 9:02:47 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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