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Live Thread - Primary Elections in Pennsylvania & Arkansas - Watching the Key House Races
www.keyhouseraces.com | 18 May 2010 | InterceptPoint

Posted on 05/18/2010 3:15:17 PM PDT by InterceptPoint

There are already a couple of LIVE THREADS covering the overall PA primary election. But I don't see anything out there for the Arkansas, Kentucky and Oregon folks so we are going to post our normal live thread focusing on the Key House Races. In this weeks Primary Elections we see 2 competitive House Races in AR and 9 in PA. Plus there is the Special Election in PA-12 that we have been following. There is nothing looking very competitive to us in OR or KY.

So if you are just interested in how things are going across the board in PA here are the ongoing PA LIVE THREADS"

Primary election gets a slow start (Pennsylvania Primary Thread)

It's Primary Day In Pa.

For those of you who have been following the Key House Races here is our list of the competitive races in today's primaries.

District Dem Primary Winner R-Seats Republican Incumbent or Challengers Links to All State Races
Or Incumbent Main Challenger Challenger Challenger
AR 1 Open D (Berry) Rick Crawford Princella Smith AR
AR 2 Open D (Snyder) Tim Griffin Scott Wallace AR
PA 3 Kathleen Dahlkemper Martha Moore Mike Kelly Ed Franz PA
PA 4 Jason Altmire Mary Beth Buchanan Keith Rothfus PA
PA 6 Dem Primary Incumbent Jim Gerlach PA
PA 7 Open D (Sestak) Pat Meehan PA
PA 8 Patrick Murphy Mike Fitzpatrick Gloria Carlineo Ira Hoffman PA
PA 10 Chris Carney Tom Marino David Madeira Malcolm Derk PA
PA 11 Paul Kanjorski Lou Barletta Chris Paige PA
PA 12 Special Election Timothy Burns PA
PA 12 Open D (Murtha) Bill Russell Timothy Burns PA
PA 17 Tim Holden Frank Ryan Josh First Dave Argall PA


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; ar2010; arkansas; election2010; keyhouseraces; khr; livethread; pa2010; pennsylvania
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To: smoothsailing; jazusamo
What a great letter, smooth. We all know why they chose not to publish it and it worked like a charm.

lingering affection for ...

Ewwww...that just made my stomach do flip flops. There is something unbalanced about anyone who would have those feelings for that pig. Battered wife syndrome?

481 posted on 05/19/2010 6:39:16 AM PDT by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: smoothsailing

exactly.

So Gleason gets exactly what he wanted.

Critz wins in November.

SOSDD


482 posted on 05/19/2010 6:42:22 AM PDT by HonestConservative (When Injustice becomes law, resistence becomes duty. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ballygrl

Really.


483 posted on 05/19/2010 6:44:07 AM PDT by HonestConservative (When Injustice becomes law, resistence becomes duty. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HonestConservative

I think we can chalk PA-12 up to a failure of the GOP Establishment in PA. How do you let a career political operative from DC run to the right of your candidate in the current political environment?

Go take a look at Critz issue page. He ran as a Republican. He hypes how he is Pro Life, Pro 2nd Amendment, Pro Domestic Energy production and Pro Military. He also stressed his ties to the US Military and his getting some big award from the National Guard.

Burns on the other hand has no solid creditably with the military plus he is easy to caricature as an “Evil big businessman” in a solidly blue collar district. In addition to that the GOP Establishment threw over solidly conservative, ex military man Russel to run the light weight Country Clubber Burns.

On the surface PA-12 voted for the more Conservative candidate. We all know that is nonsense but most voters are not so involved in the process as Freepers

Once again it seems the GOP was more interested in a candidate that could self fund then one who actually had a serious shot at this seat.

The questions for Nov are:

Are there enough of these sorts of newbie Dems running as Republican Lite to hold these districts for the Dems?

Is the GOP Establishment so uniformly incompetent that they cannot find credible candidates who have a serious connection with the voters in these sorts of district?

How would these voters break if they are confronted with a serious Establishment Democrat vrs a serious challenger Conservative rather the being forced to choose between a faux “Republican lite” Democrat and a Establishment Country Club Republican?

PA 12 indicates nothing about Nov.

PA-12 was the Dems seat to lose and they didn’t. Big Whoopie! Kerry carried in in 2004 and McCain won it by like 1% of the vote. It is NOT a “Swing District” it is a solid “Safe D” district.

The take away from PA 12 should be that the Dems had to work this hard to win this safe seat. Those facts should be ringing warning bells in DNC circles not generating the sort of arrogantly smug complacency being expressed by Democrat Propaganda Press


484 posted on 05/19/2010 6:46:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run our of other peoples money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie
Is the GOP Establishment so uniformly incompetent that they cannot find credible candidates who have a serious connection with the voters in these sorts of district?

But if the answer to this question is YES, then we are going to have a serious problem in November....at least trying to win back the House. And IMO, we NEED to win back the House in 2010. We need to shut down Pelosi and we need a way to introduce Conservative Legislation with a simple majority vote.
485 posted on 05/19/2010 7:51:32 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve - STUPAK)
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To: airborne

I can’t recall where I learned that - PA 12 gone. It was a while ago. Do a google search (PA congressional district 12 census) or something like that and you’ll probably come up with the info.


486 posted on 05/19/2010 9:13:42 AM PDT by randita (Visit keyhouseraces.com for a list of vulnerable DEM and must hold GOP House seats.)
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To: InterceptPoint

Excellent post. Thank you for doing the research. Blanche Lincoln has to go in Arkansas


487 posted on 05/19/2010 9:27:21 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: InterceptPoint

Could you add me to the list?


488 posted on 05/19/2010 9:57:49 AM PDT by florm15 (Thank you President Bush! You are missed!)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

No sorry, every man can join the service and move on to something else after their enlistment is done. That is the typical pattern, and it has nothing to do with being a police officer, accountant, surgeon or anything else. Military service means sacrifice & discipline and those are the primary reasons so many of these ‘patriots’ took a pass on it when they were younger men; they don’t want to pay the price.


489 posted on 05/19/2010 10:31:31 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: smoothsailing
"Murtha was a veteran, so is Critz. Of the six candidates in the PA-12 race in either the special election or primaries, all have prior military service except one, Burns. This could be a very real problem for Burns, both in the special election and the Republican primary."

I make a similar point elsewhere on this thread. The GOP needs to find men who have had balls enough to serve in uniform.

490 posted on 05/19/2010 10:35:11 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: smoothsailing

By the way, did anybody ever ask Burns why he did not serve in uniform?


491 posted on 05/19/2010 10:43:40 AM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: eCSMaster; HonestConservative; jazusamo
No, the people of PA-12 are just plain stupid.

It's just not that simple, and it's certainly not a legitimate excuse for the Burns defeat.

Russell was always the best candidate.

Burns was a establishment candidate anointed by a corrupt PAGOP chairman, Rob Gleason. By doing so, Gleason deliberately divided the conservative Republican base for his own selfish reasons.

Burns was an opportunist who attempted to buy himself an election and he failed miserably. His handlers fed him Bill Russell's positions and ideas and Burns regurgitated them. Burns thought he was a clever man, and that's what beat him. The Burns campaign was a lie from the beginning, and that fact could not be hidden.

Only Bill Russell can be Bill Russell. Russell has lived what he is, a man of truth, integrity, and character. He recognizes that truth is the only foundation on which to build anything strong and good and lasting, because only truth endures. Lies die.

The Burns campaign died last night. Critz beat Burns like a junkyard dog, and he'll do it again in November. PA-12 will now stay in Democrat hands until it ceases to exist in 2012.

492 posted on 05/19/2010 10:57:21 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: MSF BU
No sorry, every man can join the service and move on to something else after their enlistment is done. That is the typical pattern, and it has nothing to do with being a police officer, accountant, surgeon or anything else. Military service means sacrifice & discipline and those are the primary reasons so many of these ‘patriots’ took a pass on it when they were younger men; they don’t want to pay the price.

Sorry, but I'm not buying it. I don't think military service makes anyone more noble or virtuous than anyone else, all things considered. Frankly - and I don't mean any personal insult here - but some of the biggest losers, punks, cowards, and all-around worthless pieces of human garbage that I have known have been people who served in the military, just as veterans have also been some of the best, wisest, and noblest people I've known. Nobility in the human spirit is something you either have, or you don't have, and it exists or doesn't exist because of spiritual choices a person makes, much more than whether that person elects to have their college paid for by Uncle Sam. Quite frankly, I honour and admire a faithful pastor who stands on the Word of God more than I do a military veteran.

493 posted on 05/19/2010 11:00:34 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

...and I think the choice to stand by and watch young women deploy into combat while staying home says a lot about any young man who choses that route. Of course, they are free to chose to do that, but they should not get upset when the choice is pointed out. That is especially true if they later want to put themselves into positions of national leadership.


494 posted on 05/19/2010 12:47:48 PM PDT by MSF BU (++)
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To: randita; jveritas; Think free or die
For all of the b!#@hing and complaining I've listened to from people around here, I was shocked and angered to hear that the turn out for the primaries here in PA was 22%.

22% !!!

What the hell???

That's pathetic! No wonder we have the crooks, union thugs and idiots running the state! Shame on you PA! Shame on all you lazy whiners who couldn't be bothered to get off your fat a$$eS and vote!

And to you, 'jveritas', I just want to acknowledge that you were right about not being able to count on PA. I am embarrassed for my Commonwealth, and by my fellow Pennsylvanians.

22%...Ugh!

(end of rant)

495 posted on 05/19/2010 4:56:25 PM PDT by airborne
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To: airborne

Union workers are not to be trusted and Pennsylvania is full with them. The vast majority of them will vote socialism and democrat no matter what.


496 posted on 05/19/2010 5:35:58 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: jveritas

I have a few friends who are union members, and I trust them.

But then again, I don’t have a lot of friends. And the ones I do have are mostly hard working Christians, union members included.

It makes me sad (and angry) to see what this Commonwealth has become.


497 posted on 05/19/2010 5:45:48 PM PDT by airborne
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To: randita

I think I found what you were talking about -


“-Murtha House seat likely to disappear-”
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/84677872.html

“The candidate who succeeds the late Rep. John P. Murtha (D., Pa.) in a special election this spring might not want to buy a home in Washington.

That’s because demographers estimate that Pennsylvania will lose at least one seat in the decennial reapportionment of House seats among the states after the 2010 Census - and some political analysts believe the 12th District would be an easy target for state lawmakers reshuffling boundaries before the 2012 elections.

Murtha’s district, which looks somewhat like a crustacean spread over parts of nine counties, was itself gerrymandered into existence to save his job a decade ago, after the Census determined that Pennsylvania would lose two representatives because of sluggish population growth relative to other states.”


498 posted on 05/19/2010 5:54:05 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Think free or die
Just found this article.

Houghton jumped out to an early lead because the Philly precincts came in much more quickly than the Montco precincts (and Haughton pulled in 75 percent of the Philly vote, being the Philly GOP endorsed candidate), but we weren't worried, Montco has a lot more supervoters than Philly, and the Montco precincts that did come in earlier were largely coming in well for Dee (I think Josh might have won three Montco precincts total). It ended up being Dee 48 percent, Josh 28 percent and Haughton 24 percent.

499 posted on 06/23/2010 11:35:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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