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Detroit Police Shoot and Kill 7-Year-Old-Girl (While Police Struggle With Mother)
My Fox Detroit ^ | 5/16/2010 | My Fox Detroit

Posted on 05/16/2010 10:47:23 AM PDT by Dallas59

Updated: Sunday, 16 May 2010, 11:09 AM EDT Published : Sunday, 16 May 2010, 8:44 AM EDT

DETROIT - A spokesperson for the Detroit Police Department says a 7-year-old girl named Ayana Jones was accidently shot and killed by a DPD officer.

Watch the latest video report by Fox 2's Roop Raj.

It happened in the 4000 block of Lillibridge at 12:40 Sunday morning. According to Detroit Police , officers went to the house to arrest a murder suspect, with a valid search warrant.

The suspect was wanted in another crime that happened on Friday in Detroit. A 17-year-old high school student was shot and killed in front of a party store. They had reason to believe the man inside the home on Lillibridge was the gunman in that murder.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxdetroit.com ...


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To: Popman

I bet DPD does five of these a week. So, I bet the overall track record is pretty good.

The suspect was about 35. He shot a 17 year old in public.
Then he goes home? In the same ID’d car.
WTF?
So, the shooter is crazy, sick, stupid or all three. If he was like some pro criminal, he wouldn’t of killed the 17 yo in public, with witnesses. He would of drove out of town.

Anyways, the problem was meeting up at the door with a civilian, who according to SWAT tactics is supposed to be disorientated. What’s the plan if they stand there, struggle, yell, push the door closed? What is the plan?
( I bet this event was never practiced against )


41 posted on 05/16/2010 11:40:46 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Sherman Logan

Apples and oranges.

Columbine were arrived at the scene patrol officers.

This was a practiced, day in day out, planned( a bit ) SWAT team.

Big difference in timing, time, training and officer selection.


42 posted on 05/16/2010 11:42:56 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Lurker

When it happens because you’re resisting police, you’re guilty of murder.


43 posted on 05/16/2010 11:45:17 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Dallas59

What ever happend to the use of tear gas to flush suspects out in to the open? Every one of these raids now appears as a military assult.


44 posted on 05/16/2010 11:57:27 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Dallas59

Anybody know what “Roop Raj” is?


45 posted on 05/16/2010 11:59:53 AM PDT by albie
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To: Steamburg
"What, there wasn’t a family pet to shoot? "

Remember, on the FBI's augmented collateral-damage scale the child is worth 10-more points towards promotion than a dog is worth.

46 posted on 05/16/2010 12:01:04 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Leisler
I agree things can go wrong real quick in a situation like what happened in Detroit

Maybe this time the DPD did the right thing in dealing with a potential problem.

But in general, these police tactics are overused, abused and used way too much to justify the expense

47 posted on 05/16/2010 12:01:45 PM PDT by Popman (Balsa wood: Obama Presidential timber)
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To: Popman

It was, after all, Detroit. Maybe the mom owed money to the mayor


48 posted on 05/16/2010 12:03:02 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Popman

It’s good that this training and equipment is availble.

I suspect that with high costs, budgets, the idea of having forty cops surround a house isn’t possible. Especially in a crime busy, bad criminal population, broke city like Detroit.

Further, this is the way the DPD as a crew as it were, handles it. This is the way THEY want to do it. Maybe even the softest amongst us would quickly come around to their view.

In the end, theory aside, I have to a bit bow to the guys doing the job. I’m sure they don’t wake up every day and say lets do it the hard way day in day out.

I’m in a pretty low crime area and talking to the LEO’s over a beer they just feel the kids/criminals are just wacked, crazy, stupid crazy. They don’t mind rational criminals that ask for a lawyer, that’s rare. It’s the psycho drama mental F’ups that think four cruisers and six officers that lift weights and do this crap day in day out that the criminal class is so whacked mentally to think that there is any other outcome but loose. In a way it shakes them to realize they are not dealing with rational people. And of course if you are professional rational criminal, the courts treat you worse than if you can prove,show, act that you are crazy and one of the ways is to take on the arresting police offices. So there is a built in incentive to go wacky upon arrest. How crazy is that?


49 posted on 05/16/2010 12:05:28 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: AppyPappy

Have they built the Illinois State Prison for Detroit Mayors yet?


50 posted on 05/16/2010 12:08:08 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: albie
Anybody know what “Roop Raj” is?

It's either (A): I knew a guy who was drunk and picked a up a woman on the corner. When they got down to business, not only was he shocked the "she" was really a "he", but there was a little "roop raj" to go along with it!

Or it's (B): Something Astro said in episode 34 of The Jetsons

51 posted on 05/16/2010 12:14:37 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (If the right has TEABAGGERS, then the left has SCUMBAGGERS and DOUCHEBAGGERS!!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

they could have waited until the perp left the site and set up an ambush. If they didn’t know who was in the house, that was their short coming and is not a valid excuse. That’s like saying let’s charge in without knowing what we are entering into. This was a screw up. No other way around it. To down play it or try and rationalize around it will only allow it to re occur rather than learn something useful for future operations


52 posted on 05/16/2010 12:15:07 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Captainpaintball

“(B): Something Astro said in episode 34 of The Jetsons”

...BINGO! LOL!


53 posted on 05/16/2010 12:15:48 PM PDT by albie
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To: Del Rapier

Until I see evidence to make me think otherwise, I say it’s a tragic accident.


54 posted on 05/16/2010 12:46:24 PM PDT by sand lake bar
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To: Dallas59

You all do not know me here, but I am very much against tribal folks. But children are to be held inviolate. No matter what I think I will stfu now God bless you little girl. I wish you were living with me.


55 posted on 05/16/2010 1:05:09 PM PDT by Rannug ("When you make peaceful protest impossible, you make violent protest inevitable." JFK)
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To: Dallas59
Detriot

The future of America if Obama gets a 2nd term.
56 posted on 05/16/2010 1:18:56 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: Gadsden1st
I just don’t get this bashing. They were trying to arrest a murder suspect. Are all the second guessers on FR now automatically down on swat teams?

Freepers expect military force to only be used in hostage situations. It's that stupid constitution thing that you don't care about, evidently.

58 posted on 05/16/2010 6:37:41 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Gadsden1st

Stop making sense.

Making sense is a personal attack on every police officer everywhere.


59 posted on 05/16/2010 6:40:22 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Had they politely knocked on the door and the perp took the little girl hostage and she gets killed, the cops would be criticized for not doing a dynamic entry

I have never seen the public make such a criticism.

I suspect in that instance the public might rightly critisize the cops for not waiting until the suspect wasnt surrounded by so many other people though.

Your either/or strawman leaves out all the common sense options.

Sad, really.

60 posted on 05/16/2010 6:46:31 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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