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Home-school is so popular some getting suspicious
Houston Chronicle ^ | 5/10/10 | J Radcliffe

Posted on 05/11/2010 6:44:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

More than 22,620 Texas secondary students who stopped showing up for class in 2008 were excluded from the state's dropout statistics because administrators said they were being home-schooled, according to Texas Education Agency figures.

But that's where the scrutiny of this growing population seems to end, leaving some experts convinced that schools are disguising thousands of middle and high school dropouts in this hands-off category.

While home-schooling's popularity has increased, the rate of growth concentrated in Texas' high school population is off the chart: It's nearly tripled in the last decade, including a 24 percent jump in a single year.

“That's just ridiculous,” said Brian D. Ray, founder of the National Home Education Research Institute. “It doesn't sound very believable

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: education; homeschool; lping
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To: dfwgator

“You’ll change your tune when your taxes go to supporting those children when they grow up and go on the dole.”

I doubt the dole will exist much longer.


261 posted on 05/11/2010 10:51:50 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: sportutegrl

>>”my momma hasn’t got the books, yet.” This was at Thanksgiving, and she was 11 years old. <<

So? How do you know that she didn’t school through the summer and took Oct, Nov and Dec off?

We school year round. If you ask my kids what they are learning at any given time, I’m not sure they could pop up with an answer. Why should they be able to? Are we educating them for pop quizzes or life?

Yet, they tell me when they read about something in a lesson and apply it almost every day. I can’t figure out the area of a room. My kids tell me how much flooring to buy at Home Depot.

And we don’t have books.


262 posted on 05/11/2010 10:53:24 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: JenB

What textbooks do you encourage? I’m considering homeschooling my son. I’m a public school teacher- don’t tell anyone ; )


263 posted on 05/11/2010 10:54:10 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: rarestia

i do hope you wait until after your children are born before you start home schooling... it’s hard to see the chalk board from inside the womb...

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264 posted on 05/11/2010 10:54:16 AM PDT by teeman8r (NO vember is coming... vote them out)
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To: goodwithagun
Sacrificing your money to teach kids about fisting? Research Kevin Jennings and the book list that he thinks students should be exposed to.

Do you think he should be allowed to homeschool his young children and teach them about fisting?

265 posted on 05/11/2010 10:54:19 AM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: RockyMtnMan; Tax-chick; JenB; wintertime

***So you taught your kids calculus, trig, physics and chemistry?***

I did.

Chemisty, Saxon Algebra, Saxon Calculus, and Saxon Physics.

Saxon Math is hands down the best math curriculum on the planet. Light years ahead of the *Everyday Math* crapola they teach in public schools these days.

Saxon Publishers

http://saxonpublishers.hmhco.com/en/saxonpublishers.htm;jsessionid=2CBE20B236FBCEE0C46DB0A2994B23BE.ecom-app-wk2


266 posted on 05/11/2010 10:54:36 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: sportutegrl

>>Do you know Calculus? My son is in public school advanced placement classes, where the learning track includes Calc I and II<<

LOL! I can’t do Algebra to save my soul.
That’s why I buy Saxon. They have DVDs to teach.


267 posted on 05/11/2010 10:54:58 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: metmom

HA!!!!
Check out the post after yours.

Saxon all the way!


268 posted on 05/11/2010 10:55:46 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: wintertime
Hm?...Maybe we could start by giving every government school teacher one month to prepare for the GED. If they flunk the GED, they should be fired.

Teachers who fail: A survey of certification-test scores yields alarming results (More than half a million Florida students sat in classrooms last year in front of teachers who failed the state's basic skills tests for teachers.)


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1321666/posts

269 posted on 05/11/2010 10:57:08 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: goodwithagun

“Most states, including the state in which I teach, requires a master’s degree at some point. For example, I will not be granted a certificate renewal in 2016 if I don’t have a master’s degree.”

And a Masters degree is relevant to Primary (or even Seconday) education because . . . ? A second grade teacher needs a masters to teach writing and basic arithmatic why? For that matter, what master’s level knowledge does a 7th grade English teacher need to teach a bunch of twelve- and thirteen-year-olds? Does a shop teacher with a freshly-minted M.A. or M.S. understand woodworking or metalworking better than someone with twenty years hands-on experience?

There is nothing wrong with a Master’s degree (I have an MBA), but it does not impose wisdom. It develops highly-specialized skills that are not particularly relevant to elementary and most high school education. The main functions that requiring teachers to hold Masters degrees serves is to reduce the pool of available teachers (and allow wages to rise due to a reduction in the available supply of teachers) and to provide job security to college professors.


270 posted on 05/11/2010 10:57:21 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (I can see November from my house.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The poor kid. That’s so sad.


271 posted on 05/11/2010 10:57:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: DJ MacWoW; HospiceNurse
Not providing a child with a proper education is child abuse.

Ha ha ha ha. That's why we home schooled. Because the public school system's garbage wasn't "proper education". And frankly, the appalling academic standards, the ignorant teachers, the nauseating PC indoctrination were, and still are, *child abuse*

We were preventing child abuse.

My daughter went to college on scholarship, graduated with honors, is successful in her career and runs rings around darn near everyone. In her first interview with her college counselor, the counselor said her favorite students were home schooled.

It is interesting to note that the real shenanigans and chicanery here are being perpetuated by...the...school...system and its administrators. And they are trying to blame it on home schooling families. One thing I learned in my extensive dealing with the public school system, none of the clowns running the circus is responsible for anything. Everything is someone else's fault.

You want to turn an adminstrator's bowels to water? Suggest the he make a decision, stand by it and take the responsibility for that decision. You should see the panic in their eyes. LOL

272 posted on 05/11/2010 10:57:33 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: RockyMtnMan; Tax-chick

FWIW, none of those subjects are REQUIRED for entrance into college. Trig and chemistry and physics are recommended. Calculus is an AP course in public schools and is not required for college entrance and is not even required for most college degrees.

For that matter, most high school teachers can’t teach calc either.

So, you’re creating a strawman.


273 posted on 05/11/2010 10:57:45 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: teeman8r

My thought is that if they can get 3D digital images from inside the womb, then I should be able to get a chalkboard or at least a dry erase up there.

...now if I could just get the wife to agree...


274 posted on 05/11/2010 10:58:23 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: No Truce With Kings

The point I was making to the original poster was that a teacher needs more than an associate’s degree. The original poster claimed that anyone with an associate’s degree could teach and that was not true. I was not arguing the validity of various degrees.


275 posted on 05/11/2010 10:59:07 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Why did you send her to college when you could have home colleged her too?


276 posted on 05/11/2010 10:59:33 AM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: goodwithagun

What grade are you looking for?

(btw, tons of PS teachers homeschool, at least here in MI)


277 posted on 05/11/2010 10:59:39 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: HospiceNurse
Just being a parent isn’t a qualification for anything. Every criminal has parents and many criminals are parents.

So, you are a statist.

Your position is identical to the common left-think that believes that government knows how to better manage our lives than we do, and that we need Big Brother to protect us from ourselves.

Like all liberal arguments, yours presupposes that man is inherently evil, and or, too stupid to control his own destiny. You also seem to feel that it's ok to punish the vast majority of citizens with a reduction in their basic rights, because of the anti-social acts of the few.

It's the same argument put forth by liberals to increase gun control. You want government to take away the rights of the majority to control the anti-social acts of the minority.

You can't protect against every possible shortfall or ill in a free republic. It's part of the price we pay for being free.

278 posted on 05/11/2010 10:59:47 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: netmilsmom
They have DVDs to teach.

We have more information at our fingertips, at the click of a mouse, then any prior generation in history even dreamed possible.

Speaking purely on a practical, technical basis, the public schools are obsolete.

279 posted on 05/11/2010 10:59:48 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Make full use of the First, so we aren't forced to exercise the tools of the Second.)
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To: humblegunner
You think illiterates and crackheads should homeschool?

If it's good enough for the classroom it's good enough for homeschool!

280 posted on 05/11/2010 11:00:39 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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