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Any thoughts? Suggestions?

Flame away.

1 posted on 05/07/2010 4:01:55 AM PDT by hoosier_RW_conspirator
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

Other reasons why they want an amnesty:

Slave labor force
Professional agitators
A new generation of civil rights “victims”
More reasons to tear down our society


2 posted on 05/07/2010 4:08:03 AM PDT by dangus
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

Once you’ve conceded that amnesty will happen you’ve lost. By given any ground, you’ve framed the debate as to which concessions you’ll accept rather than the core concept of amnesty.

When the hangman is selecting rope, the victim doesn’t care if it’s silk or hemp. You’re negotiating for the type of rope.


3 posted on 05/07/2010 4:11:20 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator
I understand your premise, but think you're only pushing back a problem.
Without a way to put a plug in the border to stop the flow of illegals we find ourselves back to our 1986 amnesty.
4 posted on 05/07/2010 4:18:43 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( USMC SSgt Patrick O - 3rd Afghanistan Deployment - Day 199)
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

Two years is not hardly long enough. The term for a senator is six years. Terms for representatives is two. President is four.
IF any bill passes, they should not be allowed to vote in any national election for at LEAST ten years and the same amount of time should pass before they can join a union. ANY union. Otherwise, they will use the two years you have proposed to organize for the first major election and we are toast.


5 posted on 05/07/2010 4:19:26 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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NO AMNESTY... unless you want this nation to be ripped apart... two year delay in death is not victory. These mexican illegal invaders should be deported... if they come back... shoot them. I was around when tip O'Neil talked Reagan into Amnesty... fat ted the dead kennedy swore on a stack of Bibles that he did not believe in, that this would be the only Amnesty ever... that we would close the borders and secure our Nation and her immigration... The pols have only grown into bigger liars and anti-Americans.

LLS

6 posted on 05/07/2010 4:19:45 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

Flame away? Sure.

I think that you don’t have any common sense. Grant any type of citizenship to criminal trespassers is just flat wrong. We need to be arresting them...not giving them citizenship and voting rights.

What the hell do you think they will vote for after 2 years?

The camel’s nose is already under the tent and you simply want the rest of it to follow.

We are in a WAR to save our American way of life and giving these people access to unearned citizenship is simply surrender and defeat.


7 posted on 05/07/2010 4:24:45 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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I would like to see that if we can't deport them back to their home countries at least deport them to sanctuary cities.

Also if they do get amnesty at least the gubmint should try to insure that the illegals fake documents that they're going to use to meet the criteria are at least made in America.

8 posted on 05/07/2010 4:27:19 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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As far as I'm concerned, the only "amnesty" I'll entertain is that if they voluntarily self-deport*, their previous illegal entry will be forgiven/ignored when they go the the back of the line to apply for legal entry.

Any other crimes committed would be automatic disqualification from ever being allowed legal entry. Ditto for those we have to deport ourselves.

*To this effect, I'd have no problem setting up a "hotline" system to provide them with transportation assistance back to the border.

9 posted on 05/07/2010 4:34:19 AM PDT by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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The first thing you need to do is make sure Pence is not the one proposing the amnesty legislation:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_457867.html

His biggest strike in the illegal alien issue was in 2006 when he attempted to snatch defeat from the jaws victory with his late-in-the-game proposal that was nothing but a thinly disguised amnesty scheme.

Who knows where he stands on amnesty for illegals this year?


11 posted on 05/07/2010 4:57:43 AM PDT by Will88
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"Any thoughts? Suggestions?"

Yeah, make the lag time six years. That makes all the senators vulnerable (1/3 up for re-election every two years).

12 posted on 05/07/2010 5:01:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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Illegal aliens are already voting all over the country because most states don’t require any kind of voter ID, and since Kennedy got a law passed many years ago so anyone can get registered as a voter when they get a drivers license.....your idea would have some merit except for this.


13 posted on 05/07/2010 5:03:53 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator; Bokababe; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
RE :” As the time to attain citizenship through the legal process can take more than two years, I would like to see a provision attached to any bill authorizing blanket, “amnesty” citizenship, that any illegal alien being granted citizenship through any amnesty legislation not be given full voting rights for a period of two years from the bill's implementation.
Any thoughts? Suggestions? Flame away.

Here's some better ideas that do not reward people for breaking laws:

1) No illegal alien ever gets the ability to vote in America even if he dies here. Sorry but rewarding lawbreakers with the right to vote just causes more problems.
2) Any illegal showing up in an emergency room for free treatment, or for food stamps or school with their kids is deported (cut off our tax dollars to them)
3) illegals are not allowed to sue anonymously. If they sue an American in civil court they are picked up and deported in outside the courtroom.

And call the bill something noble sounding like “ The legal American citizen's protection act

14 posted on 05/07/2010 5:08:02 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

I would be inclined to do the following: 1. Seal the border
2. Deport or imprison all illegals 3.Have an armed response to all who attempt to recross illegally.


15 posted on 05/07/2010 5:08:48 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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2 YEARS!!!! Recheck reality my friend. My brother-in-law's immigrant visa application took just short of 10 years to get approved. That was just to get into the US. Then there is the long wait to go from legal resident to citizenship. By all means, send the illegals to the end of the line. It is a very long slow line, indeed.

DMV has nothing compared to Immigration/Naturalization civil servants.

16 posted on 05/07/2010 5:19:25 AM PDT by XHogPilot (A thief might rob you, but politicians can rob your family for countless generations.)
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I was thinking the same thing. No vote until you go through the whole procedure that you have to do legally and no voting for some number of years. Ask the pro amnesty people to show “good faith” and allay our suspicions about what their real goal is.


17 posted on 05/07/2010 5:22:13 AM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

No. Amnesty. Period.

Anything that does not deport illegals is Amnesty.


18 posted on 05/07/2010 5:26:27 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

Why don’t we just start an amnesty lottery?


22 posted on 05/07/2010 6:06:52 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( - Free Men will always be armed with the Truth. -)
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I do not support any type of amnesty, not now, not ever. I am getting very hard line on the border issues, years of compromising with no follow-up or honesty on the part of the government to actually secure the border has brought me to that point. My father had a saying “if you give an inch they will take a mile” and that has been the case all through the years with our politicians. I am no longer willing to give an inch.


26 posted on 05/07/2010 6:14:31 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: hoosier_RW_conspirator

I understand your suggestion, hoosierRWC, but, I don’t want anymore “amnesty”. I thought when Ronald Reagan did this it was supposed to solve the problem. It did no such thing.


40 posted on 05/07/2010 6:08:28 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (We're all Detroiters, now.)
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