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To: riverdawg
Siena Dreaming ~ But I do think there’s something on the birther cert. that he doesn’t want the public to see

riverdawg ~ That’s my suspicion as well - something that conflicts with his autobiographies.

I have my own suspicions, as I posted way back when...

What may be on his BC that you dont know about?

I believe/know a very few things:

The CoLB that his campaign released is a forgery.

Someone risked jail time to forge this document.

It takes all of half an hour on the 'net, and about $25-$40 to have a legitimate certified copy of your own BC delivered within a week. (I know this because I just did that very thing last month)

Therefore, I conclude that there must be some compelling reason to falsify his BC.

The compelling reason that comes to mind is that the real document would kick him out of the running for being the most powerful man on earth.

From this I conclude that his true documentation shows one or more of the following truths:

• He was not born in the United States, and is therefore constitutionally unqualified for the job. This is a show stopper. There is no way to "fix" this or inoculate himself against this, or win over voters on this issue. It is the premier campaign killer issue.

Therefore, I regard this as the most probable explanation for the deceit.

All the other possible reasons are much lower grade:

• His BC shows that he's a bastard. Although this might be personally embarrassing, nobody cares, a goodly fraction of the electorate is in the same boat, or closely related to someone who is.
• His birth name isn't Barak Hussein Obama. So what? We already know his his name changed when he was adopted in Indonesia. People can and do change their names, it isn't a crime, or even particularly shady.
The only question it really raises is why did he chose a muslim name? That's rather easy to explain away - he took his genetic father's name. Who can argue with that? Especially when muslim names had some popularity among blacks who didn't know just how deeply involved muslims were in the slave trade.
• His real birth certificate lists his race as something other than "African". This would be more of a problem. His whole campaign is founded on his being "the first black president" come January. Still not lethal to the campaign, but it would be awkward to 'splain away.

• There is something else embarrassing on his official BC.

Like what?
There could be nothing conceivably embarrassing about:

His time of birth
His birthday
His city of birth
His county of birth
His island of birth
His religion (Religion is not even listed!)
His mother's race
The date it was filed

A few things could be a slightly embarrassing:

The serial number? Maybe? Suppose it's really 151-1961-000666? Nope. It turned out to be 151-1961-010641

His father's name wasn't listed. Not terribly unlikely if he and Stanley Ann split up before he was born. No one cares.

His mother's maiden name. Suppose she really did use her Anna Toot drinkin' ID to get married? Would that really suffice as a reason for someone to risk jail time by falsifying his documents? More to the point, would it disqualify Barak? I don't think so. If anything it could be played for the sympathy vote, young naïve Stanley Ann trying to do her best in covering up the mistakes of her youth. Mother's maiden name listed as Anna Toot? Yawn.

That leaves the big enchilada:
His birth name. Was it really the noble and exotic Barak Hussein Obama II?

Or was it Mortimer Snerdly Toot, hmmmm?

Live that one down!

One other possibility,but it's so odd I hesitate to mention it:

Approximately 1% of live births are hermaphroditic to a noticeable degree. Perhaps his birth certificate lists him as a girl. (That would explain his pitching and if Larry Sinclair is to be believed, his catching style)...


324 posted on 05/06/2010 11:31:36 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 469 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Baby’s race isn’t on there, so we can rule that out.


328 posted on 05/06/2010 11:34:58 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (I can see November from my house.)
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To: null and void

“It takes all of half an hour on the ‘net, and about $25-$40 to have a legitimate certified copy of your own BC delivered within a week. (I know this because I just did that very thing last month)”

That depends on your birth state. I happen to have my original BC, because my mother had it. However, when I have requested a “certified” BC (with raised, embossed seal) from the Commonwealth of Virginia, I have always been sent a “Certificate of Live Birth,” not a copy of the original BC. In Virginia, at least, the two are different.


334 posted on 05/06/2010 11:42:30 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: null and void

If he had a sex change they would make a new “original” birth certificate keeping everything the same except the gender and then they would seal the first birth certificate. If that was the case the HDOH would not report that there was an amendment because the new BC functions as the original and would have no amendments to it.

The laws in Hawaii actually cover any of the “embarrassing” situations typically mentioned - so that a new long-form birth certificate is created to edit out the embarrassing information, with the original BC sealed to prevent anybody being embarrassed by disclosure.

So his unwillingness to show ANYTHING genuine - even the COLB - is very, very unlikely to be associated with an embarrassing situation regarding parentage, marital status of his mom, gender, race, adoption, etc.


347 posted on 05/06/2010 11:59:57 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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