Posted on 05/05/2010 10:41:27 PM PDT by STARWISE
'The question has been asked and answered, and I think we should all move on now'
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..... the governor of Hawaii is now publicly voicing the alleged exact location of Obama's birth, saying "the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii"
The disclosure is believed to be the first time a state government official has declared the precise place where Obama was born, despite numerous other published claims, including some for a different hospital in Honolulu.
The remark came Sunday night when Gov. Linda Lingle, a Republican, was interviewed on New York's WABC Radio by host Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. (The subject was addressed at the 77-minute mark HERE.)
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
http://bit.ly/4xeiW
medical professionals - are permanently on call in case Mr Obama is taken ill. A supply of AB-type blood (the president's blood type) travels with him for emergency transfusions.
If you read up, you'll see that the HIPAA law doesn't have a lot to do with common sense sometimes. It does not matter that something is already a matter of public record, the hospital still has duty to keep PHI confidential. The fact that the material was never confidential before 2003 doesn't excuse them from what the law instituted on that date. They can't 'take it back,' but they are no longer permitted to release it except in specified circumstances. (Try using, "it wasn't illegal before" to the judge, and see what happens.)
The law also allows leeway for personal judgment calls to be made by hospital administrators.
The "judgment calls" you refer to are based on "minimum necessary". While we can argue that it's necessary for the country's health, I suspect that won't cut it with a hospital administrator facing a fine up to $250,000 and up to 10 years in prison.
It's extremely doubtful that any hospital is going to get in trouble for saying SAD was treated and released at Kapiolani hospital ... I don't see a rule that prevents them from saying she was never there, if such is the case.
Requests for information are first checked to see if the requester has the right to that information. If the answer is “no” the hospital isn’t going to bother looking it up. I can also tell you the feds take HIPAA very seriously, and yes, very good chance they would get in big time trouble for giving out PHI. Here are a few of the higher profile cases with fines. Note that in some cases the information wasn't even publicly released, but the hospital was fined because hospital workers looked at records they shouldn't.
If they can say a patient was treated and released or in their directory, they should by simple logic, be able to say a patient wasn't there.
“Simple logic” is not how anyone I know would describe HIPAA, but it’s the law nonetheless. The "hospital directory" rule applies to patients currently in the hospital or recently released. Not to what happened years ago. If you call and ask if 0bama is currently a patient in their hospital, technically they can tell you yes or no.
If you have a citation for a legal or medical source that says otherwise, I'd like to see it. If you want more links to read up, I can supply some. I had to learn more than I wanted to about HIPAA.
From lamecherry. Right now politicians like Luis Gutierrez are saying we need illegals to work the fields that American’s don’t want to do. Did Hawaii use illegals for slave labor and bill taxpayers?
This is why I advocated certain London or American lawyers file cases based upon British Law due to Breyer and Ginsburg incorporating foreign law into American Law to test the standard as these cases would have standing in answering the question, which laws does Barack Obama have to follow first, American Constitutional Law or British Commonwealth Law, as he was born British and is British Indonesian currently.
Do you think even a Republican governor (Lingle) sitting on this explosive mess wants any of this coming out?
The first task in need of explanation is why would Hawaii aid a known illegal of British birth in illegally obtaining a fake birth certificate?
The answer is in 1961 the American public had not yet been herded by Teddy Kennedy and socialists into providing welfare benefits to illegals. Hawaii had a large population of illegals who were slave labor, but were a huge burden to the system in poverty and crime.
Hawaii has always been a corrupt enclave like Rhode Island. Hawaii was the conduit in the Clinton years to get Chinese communists a stake in the United States Stock Market, to which Hawaii had the first meltdown in this scheme in costing their investors a fortune and ruining their banks.
That is why Hawaii is in collusion with Barack Obama. There were involved in massive welfare fraud and do not want this coming out.
Barry Obama Soetero was tapping into the welfare system of Hawaii,
Thank you for the ping! It almost got lost in my FReep-a-thon posts!! Saving this thread right now.
And thank you guys for your diligence and hard work.
Is Lingle Jewish???
Andy Martin???
When a new elected member of both houses, I believe first item of order is, the the new member is called into the majority/minority's office being told what to do and NOT to do!!
If that order is not followed they will just get Hell during their "visit" to Washington. This as well as applying to other form of government, State or local!!!
Well somewhere it’s posted the he is 50% white, 44% ARAB and 6% black???
Please explain why our Founders found it necessary to define themselves to be non-natural born citizens, and the need to provide a grandfather provision for presidential eligibility. No one is questioning that Obama was born after the Constitution was adopted; thus, the grandfather provision does not apply to him.
It would be entirely improper for any court to equate natural born citizen to citizen. If our Founders meant for them to be identical, they would have used the same wording in all cases -- they didn't, because they knew there was a difference between a natural born citizen and a citizen, and they believed that difference to be important.
The legal case for ruling Obama is overwhelming. The Constitution guarantees me a republican form of government, and a republican form of government does not ignore clear rules for admending the Constitution. A conspiracy of corrupt and incompetent jurists and legislators to ignore the Constitution is a violation of my Constitutional rights. Obama knows this -- it's why he's spent millions to keep the matter out of court and to obfuscate the matter. The media knows this -- it's why they spin relentlessly for Obama's corrupt regime. Nancy Pelosi knows this -- it's why she declined to note Obama's compliance with the natural born citizenship requirement in her party's certification of his nomination for the presidency. And, you know it -- which is why I regard you as corrupt rather than incompetent.
HMMM WOnder if Madalyn signed any leagal papers between the time she died and the date of her announced death....? Transferring money etc to her grandchildren? That kind of papers....
Burning up the DNA wasn’t enough, she had to be sent out to sea so there is nothing left. I bet Hussein had the apartment “cleaned” as well.
I still find it all odd. His trip over, the ashes, the timing, and not a peep out of any of her friends or neighbors. It’s like she never existed.
Yes, Andy Martin. There might be others, but his is the only UIPA lawsuit that I am personally aware of.
Why not a Statesman-like funeral. He just "shed" tears at the black lady's funeral who had special pall bearers???
Yes. Had to make sure there were no diaries or loose letters around the place.
He posted a photo him in full battle gear including strapped knee-pads on, which he still keeps strapped on!!!
“It would be entirely improper for any court to equate natural born citizen to citizen. If our Founders meant for them to be identical, they would have used the same wording in all cases — they didn’t, because they knew there was a difference between a natural born citizen and a citizen, and they believed that difference to be important.”
They distinguished between a citizen by birth and one who was naturalized. The legal reasoning for considering a natural born citizen to include ANYONE born in the USA can be found in the first half dozen pages of Wong Kim Ark, decided in the late 1800s.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html
They reason that natural born citizen, at the time the Constitution was written, was the republican equivalent to natural born subject in English common law. Thus the established legal meaning of NBS is the key to understanding what NBC meant to the folks writing and voting on the Constitution.
I find that reasoning much stronger than those who claim a single poorly translated sentence in Vattel is the key...
I suspect those who have never been to a combat zone may not understand why knee pads and elbow pads are worn by soldiers...
What danamco has failed to ever do is show WHY WKA is incorrect. I personally think they went too far, but their reasoning makes sense, even if it goes further than I believe appropriate.
However, I do not in any way see where the citizenship of Obama’s alleged father has anything to do with his NBC status. I think any court will agree with the Indiana courts, that ruled Obama is a NBC.
http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf
But danamco prefers insults to thought, regardless. He screams about Vattel while ignoring the law at the time the Constitution was written.
No comment on the choice to cremate, but I can on the diagnoses. Medically, this does not sound odd at all. Advanced cancer may lead to broken bones for a few different reasons. An obvious one is when the cancer metastasizes to a bone, so the bone is weakened and can easily break.
Again, why bring up Jackson? The NBC clause didn’t apply to him, so it didn’t matter that his parents were not citizens of this country. Didn’t matter at all. We are discussing “Natural Born Citizens” (being born in country to citizen parentS), NOT “or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution” (who’s parent’s citizenship status was irrelevant).
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