Posted on 05/04/2010 12:01:07 PM PDT by Colofornian
PROVO -- A Provo man was booked into jail Sunday on charges of exploiting an elderly adult.
Donald Roy Savage, 56, is charged with exploiting an elderly adult with intent to profit, a 2nd-degree felony, according to 4th District Court documents. Savage is known as a political gadfly and has been involved with local political campaigns. He lists estate planning as his occupation on his Twitter account.
Savage became acquainted with a 74-year-old woman at a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints singles dance more than a year ago, and soon after began charging thousands of dollars in personal expenses to her credit card, said Lt. Arnold Lemmon of the Brigham Young University Police Department.
"His [modus operandi] is through the church; he met her at the LDS singles dance, groomed her, befriended her -- all under the color of religion," Lemmon said.
The situation started out very innocently in the victim's eyes, Lemmon said, with Savage borrowing her card with excuses that he was in between jobs, or "had a check coming." These expenses included groceries, gas and car repairs.
The victim's boiling point was reached when $3,600 in BYU football tickets were charged to her card, Lemmon said. This included a membership in the BYU Cougar Club, a tickets package that provides high-priority seating, gifts and parking passes to those who pay yearly dues, which run from $50 to $1,000, depending on the level.
The victim demanded her card back, and he refused in a "smooth way," he said.
"He was still playing the religion card," Lemmon said. "She finally said, 'Enough is enough.' "
The victim called the BYU ticket office and refused payment, he said, at which point the ticket office informed BYU police. Upon discovering that more than $20,000 in charges to the woman's card (including an iPhone) were racked up over the course of eight months, the county attorney opted for an elderly abuse charge, filing it April 8, Lemmon said.
Savage's source of income was "sporadic" over the course of the year, Lemmon said, but he wasn't trying to sell the tickets for money.
"I guess it was to invite a group of people -- 'Come to a game on me,' " he said.
According to court documents, the incident happened in May 2009, and Savage is set to make his first court date appearance on Wednesday.
It is disgraceful that people claiming to be Christian watch TV ...
I dont even own a TV...
Donald Roy Savage, 56, is charged with exploiting an elderly adult with intent to profit...Savage became acquainted with a 74-year-old woman...
This included a membership in the BYU Cougar Club...
Donald isn't just a Cougar Club Member, he's the president.
It's Bush's fault; at least it's the same "logic."
Why would you say such a thing on circumstantial evidence alone?
Lives in 88% Mormon-land (Provo)
BYU Club member
Goes to BYU dances
Labeled by Provo paper as "local political gadfly" (and believe me, if you're going to be an influential "political gadfly" in Provoland, you're better be Lds)
Oh, and then there's the specific evidence: Lds Church News, Feb. 23, 2002 -- an article that includes his picture...Savage was so prominent along the Wasatch Range that he was selected to be an Olympic torch bearer:
Don Savage, Grandview 3rd Ward, Provo Utah Grandview East stake, raised money for charitable organizations, especially Boy Scouts. He also is a volunteer for Olympic Aid, a program that brings sports to children in refugee camps.
Source: Olympic Torch Bearers
BM, not sure of your age, but no matter...if I formed a cult and told you:
Hey, BM...that spirit within you was perfect when it inhabited your body, a body not effected in any way by inherited sin from your parents, 'cause you were absolutely a perfect, innocent human being for 8 years...
but then something "magical" happens on your 8th birthday...and you became vulnerable to sin...
...but don't worry...
...'cause you're still a god-in-embryo...
...bound to become a god
So, do you think someone with my theological persuasion might need to be more persuaded that "sin is rampant in our camp"? -- or less?
svcw wrote: “LDS seem to ignore that there are those in their own ranks who are scum.”
I am a Mormon and I have no idea what you are talking about, svcw. Quite the contrary - Mormons do not turn a blind eye to sin. I know someone who was excommunicated TWICE for sin. He’s back in full fellowship thanks to the Atoning Sacrifice of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
You can’t have it both ways, svcw. You claim Mormons are too hard on people; then you claim Mormons ignore sin.
Just like all religious denominations, Mormons are not perfect but we do not deserve to be singled out for your vicious hateful attacks.
You can form a cult that believes that if you like. I don't see how your cult has any thing to do with a scam of a 56 year old man.
They are told from the get-go of their life that they are not sinful. (Don't have a sin nature; they're perfectly innocent into their elementary years; their spirit is perfect, or was; they will become a god someday; and they're already a god-in-embryo)
So, I was simply responding to MissesBush's comment where she said: ...if a Mormon does something bad it must mean all Mormons are bad! Because Baptists, Catholics, Presyberterians and Lutherans never do anything bad and if it does it never says anything negative about the entire religion, right??
And I was pointing out the contrast as to why Baptists, Catholics, Presbyterians, and Lutherans tend to think differently about sin, sin nature, our identity as mortals vs. gods & gods-in-embryo...and how if you're a perfect-spirited, no-sin-nature, on-your-way-to-becoming-a-full-grown-god...exploiting the elderly is quite a contrast compared to church bodies which consists of those who acknowledge their sin, their sin nature, their mortality, their identity as both sinners and saints.
How can this be twisted?
President Spencer W. Kimball
“Behold, he who has repented of his sins, the same is forgiven, and I, the Lord, remember them no more. By this ye may know if a man repenteth of his sins—behold, he will confess them and forsake them.” (D&C 58:42–43.)
The purging out of sin would be impossible but for the total repentance of the individual and the kind mercy of the Lord Jesus Christ in his atoning sacrifice. Only by these means can man recover, be healed and washed and purged, and still be eligible for the glories of eternity. On the Savior’s great role in this, Helaman reminded his sons of King Benjamin’s comments:
“There is no other way nor means whereby man can be saved, only through the atoning blood of Jesus Christ, who shall come, yea, remember that he cometh to redeem the world.” (Hel. 5:9.)
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
Elder M. Russell Ballard
Satan will seek to tempt us at times and in ways that exploit our greatest weaknesses or destroy our strengths. But his promises of pleasure are short-lived deceptions. His evil design is to tempt us into sinning, knowing that when we sin we separate ourselves from our Heavenly Father and the Savior, Jesus Christ. We begin to move away from Heavenly Father’s promised blessings toward the misery and anguish in which Satan and his followers languish. By sinning we put ourselves in Satan’s power.
Now, my dear young friends, I understand the struggles you face every day in keeping the commandments of the Lord. The battle for your souls is increasingly fierce. The adversary is strong and cunning. However, you have within your physical body the powerful spirit of a son or daughter of God. Because He loves you and wants you to come home to Him, our Father in Heaven has given you a conscience that tells your spirit when you are keeping the Lord’s commandments and when you are not. If you will pay more attention to your spiritual self, which is eternal, than to your mortal self, which is temporary, you can always resist the temptations of Satan and conquer his efforts to take you into his power.
Mormons just think they are superior, Saundra. They think they and they alone are in charge of the sole gateway to salvation..that to be saved, one must be baptized and confirmed a member of the mormon church and alive or dead, be "worthy" to enter into the presence of their God.
If we are true and faithful, we shall rise, not alone in immortality but unto eternal life. Immortality is to live forever in an assigned kingdom. Eternal life is to gain exaltation in the highest heaven and live in the family unit.21
One man said the other day, the only thing he didn’t like about the Mormon Church was that it claims to be the only one through which a man could be saved. I said, “Oh no, we make no such claim. We say that every good religionist and every good man who is not a religionist will be saved but there are degrees of salvation. …”22
Those who have lived after the manner of the world shall go to a telestial kingdom whose glory is as the stars.
Those who have been decent and upright and who have lived respectable and good lives will go to a terrestrial kingdom whose glory is as the moon.
Those who have believed in Christ, who have forsaken the world, who have taken the Holy Spirit for their guide and been willing to lay their all on the altar, those who have kept the commandments of God—they shall go to a celestial kingdom whose glory is as the sun.23
The road of life is plainly marked according to the divine purpose, the map of the gospel of Jesus Christ is made available to the travelers, the destination of eternal life is clearly established. At that destination our Father waits hopefully, anxious to greet his returning children. Unfortunately, many will not arrive.24
Why will only a few reach exaltation in the celestial kingdom? Not because it was not available to them, not because they did not know of its availability, not because the testimony was not given to them, but because they would not put forth the effort to pattern their lives and make them like the Savior’s life and establish them so well that there would be no deviation until the end.25
There are … many members of the Church who are lax and careless and who continually procrastinate. They live the gospel casually but not devoutly. They have complied with some requirements but are not valiant. They do no major crime but merely fail to do the things required—things like paying tithing, living the Word of Wisdom, having family prayers, fasting, attending meetings, serving. …
… The Lord will not translate one’s good hopes and desires and intentions into works. Each of us must do that for himself. …
Only the valiant will be exalted and receive the highest degree of glory, hence “many are called, but few are chosen.” (D&C 121:40.) As the Savior put it, “… strait is the gate, and narrow the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” And conversely, “… wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat.” (Matt. 7:13, 14.)
It is true that many Latter-day Saints, having been baptized and confirmed members of the Church, and some even having received their endowments and having been married and sealed in the holy temple, have felt that they were thus guaranteed the blessings of exaltation and eternal life. But this is not so. There are two basic requirements every soul must fulfill or he cannot attain to the great blessings offered. He must receive the ordinances and he must be faithful, overcoming his weaknesses. Hence, not all who claim to be Latter-day Saints will be exalted.
But for those Latter-day Saints who are valiant, who fulfill the requirements faithfully and fully, the promises are glorious beyond description:
“Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them.” (D&C 132:20.)26
TO LIVE WITH HIM SOMEDAY - Spenced W. Kimball
If we are true and faithful, we shall rise, not alone in immortality but unto eternal life. Immortality is to live forever in an assigned kingdom. Eternal life is to gain exaltation in the highest heaven and live in the family unit.21
See, you have to UNDERSTAND...."being saved"=is to live forever in an assigned kingdom.
Eternal life="Eternal life is to gain exaltation in the highest heaven and live in the family unit"(WITH GOD)....the equivalent of the Christian term "being saved".
It all depends on what the meaning of "is" is!
I said: “LDS seem to ignore that there are those in their own ranks who are scum.”
I think that a better response would have been: "yes there are some that do that, as in all groups"
Instead, you went on to describe how superior LDS are in these situations.
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