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Judge presents 'dynamite charge' to stuck Palin e-mail jurors
Knoxville News Sentinel ^ | 4/30/10

Posted on 04/30/2010 7:56:15 AM PDT by SmithL

KNOXVILLE - Jurors in the trial of accused Sarah Palin e-mail intruder David C. Kernell were this morning urged to reach a complete verdict in the case.

The jurors began their fourth day of deliberations by hearing a special added instruction from U.S. District Judge Thomas W. Phillips.

Called an Allen charge in legal parlance, it is commonly called "a dynamite charge."

Phillips told the jurors that as they resume deliberating they should each reconsider their positions, but there was no need to rush to a verdict.

The jurors reported shortly before 9 a.m. and then retired to resume deliberations about 9:10 a.m.

By Thursday, they had reached unanimous agreement on three of the four counts against Kornell, 22.

Those verdicts were not announced.

(Excerpt) Read more at knoxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: davidkernell; hacking; kernell; kornell; palin; palinemail; palinfreeperping; palinkernellhacker; sarahpalin; waronsarah
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To: kevkrom

Lawyers do love their game ... LOL ...


81 posted on 04/30/2010 9:44:54 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: HIDEK6

I’ve been assuming it’s that 50 years possible sentence that has hung the jury. In reality, you won’t find many people willing to send a 22 year old away for 50 years for a violent crime, much less privacy invasion.

If he walks he will continue to be the arrogant, snot-nosed kid he’s been all along. Some time in the slammer might wipe that smirk away. Maybe.


82 posted on 04/30/2010 9:47:38 AM PDT by EDINVA (I)
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To: pikachu

Not to disillusion you but it could be all votes for acquittal except one charge ... :-(


83 posted on 04/30/2010 9:50:02 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Ann Archy
imho, it’s GUILTY on the three other counts, but even I can’t find where he tried to do identity theft.

Didn't he change the Yahoo password by prompting one of the security questions, he had the answer to where Sarah and Todd were married because of what he'd read in the press? Thus he was presenting himself as her and was able to set another password that allowed him into the account.

84 posted on 04/30/2010 9:50:38 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: MozarkDawg

I recently spent time on a jury. There were two charges. One was a drug sale, and the other was an additional charge because it was within 1000 feet of a school. The second charge would have added a couple of years to the sentence.

While it was agreed that he was guilty of count 1, (and thus count 2) his part of the crime was minor. He WAS guilty, but in a peripheral way. No one disagreed with that. The disagreement came down to whether or not he deserved to go away for a couple of more years because of the second count.

After a lot of debate, we all agreed that we were over stepping our bounds and that the judge needed to make that call—not us.

My guess is that is what is going on here.


85 posted on 04/30/2010 9:58:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (This nation, of the people, by the people, and for the people has perished from the land.)
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To: Vermont Lt; MozarkDawg
You were saying ...

After a lot of debate, we all agreed that we were over stepping our bounds and that the judge needed to make that call—not us.

The jury doesn't overstep its bounds by considering anything it wants to. It's the jury's total decision, no matter what the judge or the prosecutor or the lawyers say. :-)

And that's what conservatives need to know when they are on juries.

See the following for important information for all conservatives ...

Fully Informed Jury Association


86 posted on 04/30/2010 10:03:30 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
You know that would never happen... :-) You can kill someone and not get 50 years ... LOL ...

You're probably right, but there are a whole raft of federal charges involving organized crime, drugs, etc. where you CAN pull a stiffer sentence that your garden-variety murder sentence. All you have to do is hit a crime with multiple counts & a minimum sentencing guideline and you're going away for a very long time.

87 posted on 04/30/2010 10:31:16 AM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Star Traveler

Actually, I was one of those saying “he shouldn’t have sold drugs near a school.”

In the end, we all agreed he was guilty. And as it turned out, this was a retrial (which none of us knew.) He had already served all of his time. The conviction was reinstated and we all went home.

Go figure...


88 posted on 04/30/2010 10:52:51 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (This nation, of the people, by the people, and for the people has perished from the land.)
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To: EDINVA

I agree that he probably won’t spend the 50 years in jail, but it would be good for his humility if he got sentenced to that and then had to get his old man to pull the strings to get him out.


89 posted on 04/30/2010 10:54:24 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: sabe@q.com

So it’s up to the jury. Swell. If this is tied up because of a liberal hold-out, then that hold-out is not about to agree to allowing the three to go forward if they’re guilty verdicts.


90 posted on 04/30/2010 12:11:35 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Guilty on two counts. Not guilty on one. Mistrial on one.

Obstruction of Justice - Guilty
Unlawfully obtaining info from computer - Guilty
Wire fraud - Not guilty
Identity Theft - Mistrial

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2010/apr/30/judge-presents-dynamite-charge-stuck-palin-e-mail-/


91 posted on 04/30/2010 12:20:39 PM PDT by GeorgiaGuy
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To: SmithL

Still struggling on identity theft... at 2:25PM CDT.


92 posted on 04/30/2010 12:27:25 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: GeorgiaGuy

Guilty on the weakest counts. SOB is going to walk.


93 posted on 04/30/2010 12:46:01 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: SmithL
Recent news ...

Jury convicts Palin e-mail intruder on two counts

Palin hacker found guilty on two counts


94 posted on 04/30/2010 12:58:54 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: HIDEK6

The 2 charges he was convicted on carry a 21 year max, not that he’ll DO that.


95 posted on 04/30/2010 1:47:27 PM PDT by EDINVA (Ihttp://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2503873%2C89#help)
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To: EDINVA

WooHoo!


96 posted on 04/30/2010 1:56:43 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Cyber Liberty

Scooter Libby got 30 months on obstruction of justice.


97 posted on 04/30/2010 2:16:28 PM PDT by EDINVA (Ihttp://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2503873%2C89#help)
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To: HIDEK6

as I just posted to Cyber LIberty who said the convictions were on the weaker charges, he WAS found guilty of obstruction of justice. Scooter LIbby was convicted for that by a tainted jury, and got 30 months.


98 posted on 04/30/2010 2:19:34 PM PDT by EDINVA (Ihttp://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2503873%2C89#help)
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To: EyeGuy

lol.


99 posted on 04/30/2010 2:19:54 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: EDINVA

Scooter was a high-profile Republican. This guy’s father is a high-profile Dem. Let’s see what happens.


100 posted on 04/30/2010 2:30:58 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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