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Leaking Oil Well Lacked Safeguard Device
newsgroup ^ | april 29,2010 | Earl Evleth

Posted on 04/29/2010 11:52:51 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan

On all offshore oil rigs, there is one main switch for cutting off the flow of oil by closing a valve located on the ocean floor. Many rigs also have automatic systems, such as a "dead man" switch as a backup that is supposed to close the valve if it senses a catastrophic failure aboard the rig.

Much still isn't known about what caused the problems in Deepwater Horizon's well, nearly a mile beneath the surface of the Gulf of Mexico. It went out of control, sending oil surging through pipes to the surface and causing a fire that ultimately sank the rig.

Unmanned submarines that arrived hours after the explosion have been unable to activate the shut-off valve on the seabed, called a blowout preventer.

BP says the Deepwater Horizon did have a "dead man" switch, which should have automatically closed the valve on the seabed in the event of a loss of power or communication from the rig. BP said it can't explain why it didn't shut off the well.

Transocean drillers aboard the rig at the time of the explosion, who should have been in a position to hit the main cutoff switch, are among the dead. It isn't known if they were able to reach the button, which would have been located in the area where the fire is likely to have started.

Tony Hayward, BP's CEO, said finding out why the blowout preventer didn't shut down the well is the key question in the investigation. "This is the failsafe mechanism that clearly has failed," Mr. Hayward said in an interview.

Lars Herbst, regional director of the Minerals Management Service in the Gulf of Mexico, said investigators are focusing on why the blowout preventer failed.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: bp; deephorz; energy; leak; offshore; oil; sabotage; spill; terrorism
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1 posted on 04/29/2010 11:52:51 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Figures.


2 posted on 04/29/2010 11:55:45 AM PDT by b4its2late (It is easier to beg forgiveness than get permission.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

The more you read, the more it smells.


3 posted on 04/29/2010 11:56:46 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

A backup acoustic switch was never required and may or may not have been effective in any event. To many unknowns.


4 posted on 04/29/2010 11:57:04 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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BP says the Deepwater Horizon did have a "dead man" switch, which should have automatically closed the valve on the seabed in the event of a loss of power or communication from the rig. BP said it can't explain why it didn't shut off the well. "

I just wonder where the part was manufactured, "Made in China" perhaps?

5 posted on 04/29/2010 11:58:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Something smells and it ain’t burnt carbon!


6 posted on 04/29/2010 11:58:17 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
This well is owned by a British Corporation, it will be interesting to see if the AG sues them.

Also, is the rig inside or outside the 12 mile limit?

"U.S. regulators don't mandate use of the remote-control device on offshore rigs, and the Deepwater Horizon didn't have one." + "The U.K., where BP is headquartered, doesn't require the use of acoustic triggers."

Why didn't the US regulators require it? Do they require it of others?
7 posted on 04/29/2010 11:59:49 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: b4its2late

Envirowackos disabled it?

8 posted on 04/29/2010 12:00:03 PM PDT by Ingtar (Obama's favorite carol: Hark The Herald Angels Sing About Me)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
News says Janet Napolitano is sending SWAT teams to all the rigs to check out valves etc.

What does a Swat Team know about oil wells and valves?

9 posted on 04/29/2010 12:02:19 PM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

BP, British Petroleum, may be more short-sighted, thoughtless, and thereby more susceptible to sabotage, than American companies. I don’t know; I’m just speculating.


10 posted on 04/29/2010 12:02:24 PM PDT by FreeKeys (BP, British Petroleum, insults us by having economic illiterates opine on energy policy in their ads)
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To: Spunky
News says Janet Napolitano is sending SWAT teams to all the rigs to check out valves etc.

Rush commented briefly on this too . . . SWAT teams? Terorism, sabatage, or copy-cat prevention? What is going on? Too little information right now, but it does catch our attention.

11 posted on 04/29/2010 12:04:46 PM PDT by BAW (I will remember in November.)
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To: Spunky

That’s about the dumbest move I’ve ever seen.


12 posted on 04/29/2010 12:04:58 PM PDT by CajunConservative (Shut Up Mary!)
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To: K-oneTexas

Seems they had the same problem with the Texas City Plant.


13 posted on 04/29/2010 12:06:35 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: thackney

U.S. regulators don’t mandate use of the remote-control device on offshore rigs, and the Deepwater Horizon didn’t have one. With a remote control, a crew can attempt to trigger an underwater valve that shuts down the well even if the oil rig itself is damaged or evacuated.

The efficacy of the devices is unclear. Major offshore oil-well blowouts are rare, and it remained unclear Wednesday evening whether acoustic switches have ever been put to the test in a real-world accident. When wells do surge out of control, the primary shut-off systems almost always work. Remote control systems such as the acoustic switch, which have been tested in simulations, are intended as a last resort.

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Can you explain the above for us lay people?... Is there something require over and above the BOP which this well did have? Thanks.


14 posted on 04/29/2010 12:08:00 PM PDT by deport
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Drilling rig control rooms don't just blow up, do they ... the oil and gas is usually kept below water, so they are far from the people. Crew quarters are also on the rig so safety must be paramount.

Here is what the giant floating Deepwater Horizon rig looked like in the past, it can go up and down in the water with ballasting. it's a giant ship for all practical purposes, and yes they can go through hurricanes.

I read a BP news report that said the blowout preventor was damaged when the rig wreck hit the Gulf floor. This was back when they were doing underwater surveys. They said pipelines were ruptured by the wreck which is where the leaks were.

A whole lot of dots needs connecting here. We need a whole lot more data because the timing of all this, and Obama relaxing offshore drilling, is just too coincidental.

And that coal mine explosion ...

Are we seeing the equivalent of the Reichstag's fire only targeted at energy to get the crap and tax passed?

Hey just asking, just asking ... But wouldn't it be prudent to explore the terror angle?

15 posted on 04/29/2010 12:10:40 PM PDT by Tarpon ( ...Rude crude socialist Obama depends on ignorance to force his will on people)
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To: K-oneTexas

BP (British) represented by Podesta Group, Tony Podesta the no. 2 bundler for the Democrats, ...Follow the money to the Whitehouse.

And we heard for 8 years about Dick Cheney??!!!


16 posted on 04/29/2010 12:11:16 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan
"This is the failsafe mechanism that clearly has failed," Mr. Hayward said in an interview."
When a fail safe system fails it fails by failing to fail safely. Axiom from Systemantics, how systems act up.
17 posted on 04/29/2010 12:12:37 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: K-oneTexas
The dead man switch and blowout preventor were apparently deemed sufficient but failed none the less. Its still not known if a remote control acoustic switch would have been effective.

Rush and others are hinting sabotage. Too many coincidences. e.g. one day before earth day.

18 posted on 04/29/2010 12:13:55 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin "the Thrilla from Wasilla")
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To: Spunky

WONDER HOW THE FLASH BLUBS ON THOSE CAMERAS WILL IMPACT THE AUTOMATIC FIRE ALARMS ON THE RIGS....THAT SHOULD BE INTERESTING.


19 posted on 04/29/2010 12:15:10 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: Tarpon
...Are we seeing the equivalent of the Reichstag's fire only targeted at energy to get the crap and tax passed?...

Could be.

Remember the "underwear" bomber? Nobody wanted full body scanners prior to that event yet after the so-called bomb attempt everybody was screaming for them.

20 posted on 04/29/2010 12:15:29 PM PDT by FReepaholic (I'm in my head and can't get out.)
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