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(RINO Tom Ridge) Ex-homeland chief uncomfortable with Arizona law
AP ^ | 28 APRIL 2010 | AP

Posted on 04/28/2010 3:02:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

DENVER — Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge says he's uncomfortable with Arizona's new immigration law, saying it allows police to question people without probable cause.

But Ridge also faults both major parties for failing to come up with a national policy and opening the door for state laws like Arizona's.

Ridge spoke Tuesday in an interview with The Associated Press in Denver before appearing at a public discussion on terrorism.

He says Congress should "legitimize" the status of the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country but not grant them citizenship.

He also advocates "brutal" penalties for employers who hire illegal workers and says the U.S. should push Mexico to help control immigration.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens
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1 posted on 04/28/2010 3:02:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This bill is a great litmus test for RINO-ness.


2 posted on 04/28/2010 3:03:36 PM PDT by Defiant (If 30 million freedom-loving Americans moved to Australia,it would be the leading power in 10 years.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

RINO RINO RINO


3 posted on 04/28/2010 3:05:02 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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Yup. Tom Ridge is a stinking RINO.


4 posted on 04/28/2010 3:05:20 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain & Graham = La Raza's favorite Senators)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

F you Tom, where were you for the last eight years you f’ing RINO?


5 posted on 04/28/2010 3:07:40 PM PDT by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hey Ridge; I ain’t paying $12,000 a month anymore for an illegal mom and her 8 children.

They need to go home.


6 posted on 04/28/2010 3:08:38 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge says he's uncomfortable with Arizona's new immigration law, saying it allows police to question people without probable cause.

What's worse? People getting killed by illegals and the burden they are putting on taxpayers or cops being allowed to ask a question with reasonable suspicion? If Ridge thinks the latter, he's an embarrassment.

7 posted on 04/28/2010 3:09:03 PM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
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****ing sissy GOP making me want to puke.


8 posted on 04/28/2010 3:13:12 PM PDT by chris37
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...12 million illegal immigrants

Boy, this 12 million figure has been static now for how many years? Using this number is code for "I'm a lib."

Guess no one has crossed the border illegally since 2004? Must be that fence, huh?

9 posted on 04/28/2010 3:15:20 PM PDT by 386wt
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“Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge says he’s uncomfortable with Arizona’s new immigration law, saying it allows police to question people without probable cause.”

You buffoon! Police have NEVER needed “probable cause” to question people (and expect their cooperation).


10 posted on 04/28/2010 3:21:48 PM PDT by Tublecane
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I suppose this means Ridge thinks cops can pull people over for “driving while Mexican-looking.” Where’d he hear that, the New York Times? Does it even matter that it’s completely false? Sounds scary enough, which is the whole point of the current national discussion.


11 posted on 04/28/2010 3:24:45 PM PDT by Tublecane
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Never been a fan of this guy.


12 posted on 04/28/2010 3:25:36 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Tublecane

Ridge is a dork.


13 posted on 04/28/2010 3:25:46 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: Tublecane

It is my understanding that police in Arizona are specifically prohibited from asking about legal residency unless the person in question is being checked out for another reason, i. e., “probable cause.” They are specifically enjoined from approaching someone and “demanding to see their papers.” Anyone who says otherwise hyas either never read the legislation or is lying.


14 posted on 04/28/2010 3:26:24 PM PDT by JayVee (Joseph)
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Yup. There has to be a “legal contact” situation already between the cop and the suspected illegal.

None of these people mouthing off know what they are talking about.


15 posted on 04/28/2010 3:28:42 PM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
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Is anybody keeping track of these RINO losers on the Arizona Illegal Immigration bill?

Rubio Race over Ideology
Jeb Bus’m in Bush
Tom Milquetoast Ridge

Who else...sickening, disgusting...these people are afraid to take a stand and get labeled by our 5th Column Media.


16 posted on 04/28/2010 3:29:18 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Palinphobia has, for 20 months, been the one constant among liberals in America.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Tom Ridge is a vichy RINO/anarchist

17 posted on 04/28/2010 3:29:47 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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“It is my understanding that police in Arizona are specifically prohibited from asking about legal residency unless the person in question is being checked out for another reason, i. e., ‘probable cause.’”

I believe the standard is lawful contact, not “probable cause.” You need probable cuase, for instance, to pull a car over. But not to speak to someone. Let’s say a cop is called in to investigate a “domestic situation,” or something. You don’t need probable cause to conduct an interview. It would be in such a situation that a cop would be free to ask a person if they could provide them with proof of citizenship.


18 posted on 04/28/2010 3:41:46 PM PDT by Tublecane
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Is anybody keeping track of these RINO losers on the Arizona Illegal Immigration bill?

Rubio Race over Ideology
Jeb Bus’m in Bush
Tom Milquetoast Ridge

Who else...sickening, disgusting...these people are afraid to take a stand and get labeled by our 5th Column Media.

You can add Tim Pawlenty to the Milquetoast category.

19 posted on 04/28/2010 4:12:03 PM PDT by Azzurri
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Well in my state they have regular road blocks to check for vehicle registration, valid drivers license, liability insurance, as well as sobriety checks. No one has stopped that and the person checked up to that point has broken no laws. Unfortunately they do them in areas the illegals don't frequent. Meaning law abiding citizens are checked for such things every day so what makes an illegal alien more privileged?
20 posted on 04/28/2010 4:14:01 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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