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California Senate leader: Tear up contracts with Arizona over immigration law
Mercury News ^ | 4/27/10 | Denis C. Theriault

Posted on 04/27/2010 11:45:10 PM PDT by Bokababe

.... California Senate leader Darrell Steinberg on Tuesday asked Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to "deliver an unequivocal message" of disgust by tearing up the state's contracts with Arizona businesses and government agencies....

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; darrellsteinberg
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To: Bokababe

And how is this different from the Obama administration’s withdrawing support for Texas’ NASA offices and other projects? Oh wait, he doesn’t officially recognize that is behind some of his actions (although the Democrat running for governor’s handlers acknowledge it).


121 posted on 04/28/2010 10:06:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The hysteria of Matthewsism and Andersonism has led to a Tea Party Scare that is unAmerican.)
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To: ccmay; Riley
Fifty years ago, if you wanted to see the descendants of the Pilgrims and Puritans, you would look to the leading edge of westward migration in California, not Massachusetts.

The first big wave in memory of East moving West came in the 1960's with the Summer of Love & Haight-Ashbury, but the Hippies mostly dispersed and disappeared into the mountains of California, Oregon & Washington.

The second big wave came in the 1970's & 1980's -- the New Yorkers came to Southern California "for the weatha', honey" even though they'd freely tell you they thought EVERYTHING --from pizza to driving to politics -- was better in NY. And the tight-lipped New Englanders came to the Santa Clara Valley, turning it into Silicon Valley. Thousands came from Massachusetts, from a company called DEC to Silicon Valley. These were educated and skilled professionals in technology --conservative in dress, but really screwed up when it came to values.

It seemed like in a very short time --between the late 70's to mid 1980's I didn't recognize my home State anymore. California culture of politeness and friendliness was disappearing in favor of the run-you-over-with-a-shopping-cart mentality and grab whatever you can get. And East-Coast people started lecturing us about "political correctness".

In retrospect, we should have closed the borders of California to the rest of the US in about 1980 and we'd have been better off -- not in the short-run economically because we'd never have had the boom years, but culturally. We could have turned around California after Jerry Brown's "save the spotted housefly" reign in the 1970's but not after so many East Coasters just fell in love with idiot & his politics. We started moving further and further Left from there.

Hindsight is always 20/20 -- and completely useless.

122 posted on 04/28/2010 10:12:35 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Rocky
I'm not a constitutional lawyer, but it sure seems like California is exceeding its authority. If they are not in violation of the following passages from the U.S. Constitution, they appear to be in violation of its intent."

I am not a Constitutional Lawyer either Rocky, but isn't this situation with Steinberg threatening to "tear up contracts with and boycott Arizona" the real reason that the Insterstate Commerce Clause was written -- to regulate (keep regular) Interstate Commerce?

123 posted on 04/28/2010 10:20:41 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: jpsb
"Is it a law that you have to be an idiot to be elected to office in California?"

It's not a law. It's more of an unwritten rule within the democrat party in California.

124 posted on 04/28/2010 10:21:54 AM PDT by your local physicist (Don't blame me. I wasn't fooled by anyone. I crossed my fingers and voted for McCain.)
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To: All
If you read the comments in this Sacramento Bee article on Steinberg's proposed boycott of Arizona, they are overwhelmingly AGAINST Steinberg and FOR Arizona.

Thank you Arizona, for waking us Californians up!

125 posted on 04/28/2010 10:29:03 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

so I guess that Arizona may not be getting Caliornia’s IOU’s?


126 posted on 04/28/2010 10:30:04 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Rummyfan

“And prepare to accept another million illegal immigrants leaving Arizona for California. “

Arizona should spread the word that its police will NOT look for illegal immigrants who are on any road that leads TO California, but will be very diligent in finding those in the state or coming FROM California.


127 posted on 04/28/2010 10:35:14 AM PDT by Winged Hussar (http://moveonpleasemoveon.blogspot.com/)
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To: Pollster1
Yes. The battle lines are being drawn for what could be a civil war. I wonder though, if some states decide to seceed would the Feds fight to stop them?
128 posted on 04/28/2010 10:39:27 AM PDT by yooling ( FUBO)
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To: eyedigress

Remember, Californians passed prop 187 by a large margin. We have enough illegals already thank you. How about we send them back to where they came from?


129 posted on 04/28/2010 10:42:34 AM PDT by yooling ( FUBO)
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To: jpsb
The California Senate passed a 200 BILLION dollar single payer health bill. A call went out to contact the assembly to plead for a no vote. My assemblyman (San Diego) is Marty Block, his response was a glowing "I did Good" claiming co-sponsorship of the bill. These idiots and the folks they hire read the subject line and ignore The Will of the People
130 posted on 04/28/2010 11:04:50 AM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Bokababe

If they can tear up contracts, why, that means I can too!!!

Let’s see. I can tear up my naturalization papers and become an illegal alien. Yah, and then I will be above the law, and get freebies galore!!! WHEEE!!!

/s


131 posted on 04/28/2010 11:07:38 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: EBH
"You know what, Senate leader Darrell Steinberg, be careful as you are attempting to disrupt interstate business. The commerce clause prevents California from doing just what you suggest.

Ah-ha! You hit on that issue before I did -- excellent point!

132 posted on 04/28/2010 11:34:32 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

IF California did such, creating a bill of attainder against specific Arizona private industries, and against the constitutionally elected government of Arizona, it would be a declaration of war.

If Arizona responded in kind and withheld electricity from California for as little as 100 hours, California would be suffering rolling blackouts.

“Moreover, regulatory uncertainty kept
investors out through much of the mid-
1990s. No power plant applications were
filed with the California Energy Commission
from 1994 to 1998 because of the investor
uncertainty created by deregulation.1 1 5
Low prices and regulatory uncertainty
also explain why states in which environmental
activism is low experienced no more
investment in new power plants than
California. Arizona’s population grew 40 percent
in the 1990s. The state has a pro-business
climate, and yet its power production
rose only 4 percent during the 1990s, mostly
at existing plants. No one applied to build a
major plant in Arizona between the late
1980s and late 1999.116
If California had built more power generators
during the 1990s, they would almost certainly
have been gas–fired facilities because
those were the cheapest and easiest plants to
site. And because the electricity price increase
is largely a reflection of the regional increase in
the price of natural gas, those hypothetical
plants would have reduced California prices
only if enough plants had been built so that
the new plants (with their lower heat rates)
became the marginal source of electricity
(rather than older natural gas plants with
higher heat rates) and enough plants had been
built to eliminate any scarcity rents that are
currently in California prices.
14
Obvious explanations
for the lack
of investment in
new capacity are
low prices and
regulatory
uncertainty.”

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa406.pdf page 14


133 posted on 04/28/2010 12:55:01 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: ketelone

Mexico is so pathetic — and it’s not the people coming here illegally I abhor — it’s the Mexican govt. and people HERE who invite this mass illegal immigration.

I’ve been in L.A. my whole life and have seen all the changes — most of them not good. But go down to Mexico and you realize why Mexicans have come up here — a better life and all that entails, plus the chance to send money home to relatives in the wretched Mexico.

In Mexico itself, the Mexican people are very nice; visits to such Baja sites as Ensenada, while distressing due to poverty, et al, reveal a very polite group of residents. Crossing streets in Ensenada, you will ALWAYS be given the right of way by drivers — shopkeepers are extremely helpful and pleasant, etc. They were all devastated last year with that swine flu scare and lack of tourism. Crime in Mexico has further hurt them terribly.

OUR government needs to do so much to put a stop to this illegal immigration scourage — seek out and punish those who want to hire illegals to do jobs here for tiny salaries and no benefits (and then illegals overload the ERs, putting them out of business), make sure to shore up the borders as should’ve been done decades ago, and just make it unappealing to come here.

With the current economic crisis, CA has seen a drop in illegals — some are going home as there has been no work for them. Hooray! It’s a drop in the bucket, of course, but it’s noticeable.

All of this has been a long time coming — good for Gov. Brewer of AZ for signing the ‘law’ - now it remains to be seen how everyone really will react in response.


134 posted on 04/28/2010 12:56:53 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: Red Dog #1
I believe Steinberg has already committed a “conspiracy to racketeer” under RICO laws.

Find one other elected official or bureaucrat or businessman in California that Steinberg has discussed this with, and Arizona should put the man in front of a grand jury to get an indictment.

135 posted on 04/28/2010 1:05:24 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: yooling
Yes. The battle lines are being drawn for what could be a civil war. I wonder though, if some states decide to secede would the Feds fight to stop them?

I hope not. I hope that either the thugs in DC will decide (our of virtue or fear, I don't care which) to govern in accordance with the Constitution of the United States and real Americans can be reconciled with Obama, Pelosi, and their followers. If not, I hope the socialists will permit us to depart peaceably.

137 posted on 04/28/2010 5:06:37 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Bokababe

“Corrupt government can only exist when citizens permit corrupt public officials to assume a mantle of impunity.”

Sorry, don’t know the source, but feel it’s appropriate to the topic.


138 posted on 04/28/2010 6:57:21 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Great! Its bad enough that its parade season here in NYC, but now I have to cut through a demonstration en espanol?


139 posted on 04/28/2010 7:50:42 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Clemenza

140 posted on 04/28/2010 7:58:25 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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