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To: Scythian

OK ... while the METHODS may seem totalitarian, ya gotta consider the upside, and there really is one.

This medical tracking would NOT be for ALL meds, only certain ones and certain patients. For instance —

80% or more of ALL healthcare costs are incurred by people with CHRONIC conditions and those costs (the excessive ones) directly correlate to NON-compliance with their meds or lifestyle. For example, a diabetic, obese, hypertensive, eldery, low income (Medicaid/Medicare) patient who doesn’t take their meds, doesn’t manage their diet, doesn’t check their blood sugar, etc., ends up in the emergency room twice a year simply because they did not do what they easily could have. Those visits to the ER cost you and me a TON of money. THAT money could be saved by making sure that people do what they need to to stay ‘healthy’ and out of critical care units.

Now at a lower level, I have cholesterol issues that I manage (successfully) by taking a pill EVERY DAY. I see that as analogous to wearing a seat belt EVERY TIME I get in the car. If I have a wreck and am injured because I didn’t wear my seat belt (as REQUIRED by law) then my insurer OUGHT to be able to say I share culpability for my injuries, and respond appropriately. So if I don’t take my pill the way I ought to, I have WILLFULLY contributed to an enhanced risk of heart disease, same as if I didn’t watch my diet and get exercise.

What’s my point? If someone is going to cover my risk of illness or injury with insurance, they can set REASONABLE requirements on my behaviour and my compliance or else move me into a higher risk (ie higher premium) group.

It happens with smokers, so why not with pill takers?

Just stirring the pot.


16 posted on 04/27/2010 6:50:38 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blueflag

BS


17 posted on 04/27/2010 6:56:38 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09! WTFU!)
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To: Blueflag

You’re stirring the pot with an idiot stick.

In a free country, citizens are not chattels of the state no matter what kind of spin you try to put on it.

But the corporatists/soviets corrupting our government have changed that.


20 posted on 04/27/2010 7:02:08 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Blueflag

Seems to me when you go in for your required 6 month revist to the doc who does a blood test and your levels are not down, he would ask three questions: are you following your diet, are you exercising, are you taking your medication. If you respond no, that is the point where a report should be made if one is to be made at all. Having someone following me around with a satilite tracking stations to determine whether I am doing what I am supposed to do is beyond the pale IMO. What is next, wearing a bracelet with your locator so if the government wants to find you they just punch in your locator code? No, I think the present day Nazis have enough power over our lives, they don’t need any more...I am not an ant working in an ant colony responding to chemical stimuli der leader.


21 posted on 04/27/2010 7:02:20 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: Blueflag
What’s my point? If someone is going to cover my risk of illness or injury with insurance, they can set REASONABLE requirements on my behaviour and my compliance or else move me into a higher risk (ie higher premium) group.

That's why I hate insurance. It is a private form of collectivism that leads to public collectivism. I'd prefer to cover my own risks and reap my own benefits but now we will suffer under a new law that will enslave us all. As slaves, we might eat better, dress better, exercise more, be assigned a better job or mate and even enjoy life more.

I would take my own chances, reasonable or not.

39 posted on 04/27/2010 7:44:12 AM PDT by Theophilus ('a dog is smarter than its tail', but if the tail were smarter, then the tail would 'wag the dog'.)
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To: Blueflag
What’s my point? If someone is going to cover my risk of illness or injury with insurance, they can set REASONABLE requirements on my behaviour and my compliance or else move me into a higher risk (ie higher premium) group.

The defect in your reasoning is that Obamacare is forced upon you by the government. You must comply or face punishment. It isn't a voluntary contract with mutually beneficial characteristics. It is blackmail on pain of lost of liberty and property.

50 posted on 04/27/2010 9:46:20 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Blueflag

Yeah...and pretty soon the ONLY place you’ll be able to GET any meds is BIG BROTHER!


51 posted on 04/27/2010 9:49:05 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The PLANTATION Party is at it again (the DEMS) ....trying to make slaves of everyone)
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To: Blueflag

You’re not sticking a transmitter down my throat.

What’s the next step?

...and there would be a next step, there always is.

Given your logic, it would be prudent to stick transmitters into ALL foods which are high in cholesterol. Then if YOU eat any of those high cholesterol foods, you’d get a visit from the high cholesterol food police. After all, your behavior would be increasing the cost of my premiums - right? NO Twinkies for you, Bud.

Oh and YOU need to exercise too. Perhaps there should be a transmitter implanted in your body that connects up to your treadmill. Didn’t feel like walking 3 miles on the treadmill today? Too bad, you’re raising MY premiums...the exercise police are on their way.

I find the above to be REASONABLE requests of you. I don’t want you eating a piece of cake or slacking off on your level of exercise and increasing my premiums.

In fact, I want you to swallow one more transmitter every day. Regular bowel movements are an important part of daily living health and wellness. Please take this pill every morning, so we can monitor what time you take your daily doody. Uh oh....no elimination today? How unlucky for you, the doody police are on their way.


53 posted on 04/27/2010 9:57:34 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Blueflag

“I see that as analogous to wearing a seat belt EVERY TIME I get in the car.”

I don’t and never will!

My PU was built before the seat belt law and I don’t have to install or weare one!


55 posted on 04/27/2010 10:05:13 AM PDT by dalereed
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