Posted on 04/26/2010 12:20:27 PM PDT by pillut48
Others addressed you “concern” well.
“non-cooperation” with police is not the problem,
the illegals are the problem.
Once they are thinned out, there will be no reason for illegals to have to testify against other illegals who commit more crimes than crossing the border.
The illegal drug runnner which Johnny Sutton used to put our Border Patrol agents behind bars proved as much.
If the incentive program was used properly (i.e. testimony resulting in conviction and/or deportation of a alien criminal earns you a one year green card), illegals would be climbing over each other in an attempt to cooperate with law enforcement, rather than the current status quo.
Right now, there is no incentive to cooperate because there is little or no consequence in refusing to cooperate.
Most of the 31% may be illegals.
Waiting for the “they’re building massive camps to hold Hispanic people!...Just like Nazi Germany!!!”
“If I had anything to say about it, we’d be doing it in Colorado,” smiles former Republican Colorado Congressman Tim [sic] Tancredo.
Tancredo applauds the law in that Arizona took control of enforcing laws the federal government hasn’t enforced.
But he questions how police can stop people for any reason. “I do not want people here, there in Arizona, pulled over because you look like [you] should be pulled over,” says Tancredo.
Source: http://coloradoindependent.com/52063/tancredo-supports-new-ariz-immigration-law-but-mostly-as-a-lever
I agree with you. Tancredo is done with me.
What could also happen is that the courts will allow the law to stand, with federal oversight as to whether or not discriminatory profiling is going on. This in turn would make local law enforcement loathe to do anything without incurring the wrath of the Feds.
I see this basically as a "feel good" provision that will go nowhere in terms of actually enforcing our immigration laws.
“April 26, 2010 Tancredo Says Arizona Law Goes Too Far Former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO), who crusaded for tough anti-immigration measures while in Congress...”
Apparently the Tan Man doesn’t want AZ to obey the laws of this land...just what, exactly, were his “tough” measures, while in Congress???
~SNIP~
"If I had anything to say about it, we'd be doing it in Colorado," smiles former Republican Colorado Congressman Tim Tancredo.Tancredo applauds the law in that Arizona took control of enforcing laws the federal government hasn't enforced.
But he questions how police can stop people for any reason. "I do not want people here, there in Arizona, pulled over because you look like should be pulled over," says Tancredo.
He suspects police in Arizona will only pull people over for breaking the law. But they could already do this before the new law.
"The scary part of it is President Obama's solution is worse than the problem--amnesty," says Tancredo.
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CONTEXT GOES A LONG WAY!!!!
Are illegals entitled to these rights under our Constitution? I thought that was for legal citizens of the US. If they can't be held for being here illegally, then what good is the law that says it is illegal to enter and live in the US without going through the proper procedure. How can they be legally prosecuted for breaking US immigration laws? Too bad US citizens get prosecuted for breaking useless insignificant laws all the time, like putting a sign in the wrong place or burning trash without a permit or some other useless $hit.
Bank on exactly that. He will be plastered all over the networks, CNN, and everywhere else supporting the narrative that those evil Republicans went too far (again). See, they really are racists and can’t be trusted.
The best President on illegal Aliens was Ike and his operation wetback!
Correct. But way too many of them have time to park a patrol car with a radar gun at the bottom of a steep hill because it results in revenue!
Just think how quickly the illegal alien flow would cease if every police department in the country was paid $200 for every illegal alien captured and turned over to immigration for deportation. The $200 would be a bargain based on the savings from crime and social service expenditures alone.
Another question: Why is it so terrible to ask people who are not even in the country legally to show their papers, when the same request can be made of a legal guest and, if Schumer and Graham have their way, an America citizen who will be required to carry a biometric ID?
Might be true if the entire Hispanic community were monolithic and ruled by a mafia-like organization but they're not.
If they were I think we'd want to use far more serious methods, e.g. house to house searches, artillery fire, etc.
We really don't need to kiss all their butts just to nail the criminal class among them.
“Even ultra-right wing conservatives are concerned about the unfairness and overt racism of the law. With us now is Tom Tancredo, who in the past has been virulently opposed to immigration, but says that even he can’t support the Arizona law.”
Hey, he needs the face time and recognition. He’s been lonely and misunderstood, since out of office and off the Presidential campaign trail.
Give the guy a break. (another lifetime government employee type, first school teacher followed by elective office).
Ah, that figures. I just really want this stuff to get going in more states.
OK. That’s better
Federal law allows Arizona to do EXACTLY what they intend to do.
Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)
State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority.
The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens.
Once more, the race card is played, this time by people who are otherwise reasonable people. Don’t take the bait! This law would not need to exist if the federal government would do their job in securing our borders.
However, since this and previous administrations have made it abundantly clear that they intend to sit idly by while we are inundated with illegals who rape, rob, and murder their way across our nation, all the while receiving benefits funded by taxpayer money or taking jobs from American citizens. Meanwhile, a significant portion of their wages is sent across the border to prop up Mexico’s economy. I’m sick of it and, apparently, Arizona is, too.
There are legal means to obtain citizenship in this nation. Part of my family did it in fleeing the commies in Romania, and one of my uncles was not sure he’d be able to get his wife and children here at all. But he waded through the red tape and administrivia to success; our neighbors to the south can do the same. Did it take a “long” time? Yes, it took all of about a year. No instant gratification, but it’s the price one has to pay. Get over it.
Arizona has drawn the line. I challenge other states and, indeed, our federal government, to show the intestinal fortitude to do the same.
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