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1 posted on 04/26/2010 7:30:19 AM PDT by ventanax5
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Mistakes like this should bring down governments.


2 posted on 04/26/2010 7:31:38 AM PDT by glorgau
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Classic case of inadequate information and a BIG downside risk.

Junk in the engines will drop a plane like a rock, and it doesn't take much.

The airlines were weighing inconvenience against the possibility of debris ingestion and LOTS of deaths.

Frankly, I'll take sleeping on a chair in Heathrow any day of the week over plunging to my death from 30,000 feet.

3 posted on 04/26/2010 7:32:15 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)T)
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And now for an attack on Killer Volcano Cloud Skeptics....


4 posted on 04/26/2010 7:32:34 AM PDT by dalight
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It will be found to be a deliberate plan to increase revenues for hotels, alternative travel means, etc. in certain European countries. This was the sole purpose of the flying ban.


5 posted on 04/26/2010 7:33:04 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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I guess the engines of those Airliners were ruined by the northern lights.


6 posted on 04/26/2010 7:34:37 AM PDT by puppypusher
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The National Air Traffic Control Service decision to ban flights was based on Met Office computer models

I wonder if we could use these models for global warming predictions and to provide a basis for a trillion dollar tax scheme and the re-ordering of society?

Oh wait, they already did that.....

7 posted on 04/26/2010 7:34:58 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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The cloud may have been much less dangerous that previously feared.

Of course if there had been no precautions taken and there were planes falling out of the sky due to destroyed engines, the same pinheads now decrying an excess of caution would be decrying a lack of caution.

Pinheads - always complaining.


9 posted on 04/26/2010 7:35:50 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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Hmm, lessee: An influenza scare over a strain much less deadly than the seasonal one, and a multi-multi-million-dollar priced flight ban over volcanic ash that really wasn't a big deal.

Why don't people lose their jobs over false scare tactics? Why don't facts and evidence mean anything anymore?

11 posted on 04/26/2010 7:39:39 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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Dust that can cripple an engine can be so fine you cannot see it

I would NOT want to fly though it- it is already shown that it can destry an engine

It may be small and hard to see, but at hundreds of miles per hour the engine is sucking in a LOT of air- and any fine dust can destroy it


12 posted on 04/26/2010 7:39:44 AM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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But the Leftist Leaders had the best of intentions!!!/s


14 posted on 04/26/2010 7:40:25 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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The sky is falling!
The sky is falling!
The sky is falling!


15 posted on 04/26/2010 7:44:04 AM PDT by Frenchtown Dan
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“The National Air Traffic Control Service decision to ban flights was based on Met Office computer models which painted a picture of a cloud of ash being blown south from the Eyjafjallajokull volcano.”


16 posted on 04/26/2010 7:44:36 AM PDT by ventanax5
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Guess nobody ever heard of weather balloons or high altitude sampling.


22 posted on 04/26/2010 7:57:11 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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Jim McKenna, the Civil Aviation Authority's head of airworthiness, strategy and policy, admitted: 'It's obvious that at the start of this crisis there was a lack of definitive data.

They can't get whats happening today straight, and yet we're supposed to believe the experts when it comes to Gorebull Warming.

24 posted on 04/26/2010 8:00:33 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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Remember that ash cloud? It didn't exist, says new evidence

Didn't exist? BS.

Not have been as dense as predicted by computer models? Maybe.

Safe to fly through? I wouldn't have bet on that with my planes and passengers without a lot more testing of the ash and my engines. I doubt that GE or Pratt&Whitney have much advice on volcanic dust other than "Avoid it".

Great chance for flying a plane through it (or at least the edges) or flying weather balloons through it to take samples to see how accurate the computer models are? Yes, but it sounds like it was missed.

25 posted on 04/26/2010 8:02:02 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obamacare: The 2010 version of the Intolerable Acts.)
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The very same socialist media/pseudoscience hoaxers who gave us human-created Global Warming, have now given us the Great Ash Cloud that wasn’t.


26 posted on 04/26/2010 8:02:40 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember ("Subtlety is not going to win this fight": NJ Governor Chris Christie)
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Link to earlier thread
28 posted on 04/26/2010 8:03:35 AM PDT by Don W (I only keep certain folks' numbers in my 'phone so I know NOT to answer when they call)
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"Estimates put the number of Britons still stuck abroad at 35,000."

Were they mostly Arabs? ;-)

32 posted on 04/26/2010 8:08:40 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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The MET office used the same computer models to estimate the ash cloud that they use for estimating global warming.

Hmmm...


36 posted on 04/26/2010 8:13:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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My wife was supposed to be on one of those flights that got cancelled. I prefer to have it cancelled than taking the risk. We were only inconvenienced, she wasn’t stuck in some airport, but even if she was I’d still rather not have her be a guinea pig for the airlines. I’m sorry they lost so much money but for once I have to side with the government incompetents.


37 posted on 04/26/2010 8:25:11 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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