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Welcome to the Constitutional Crisis
The Tenth Amendment Center ^ | April 25, 2010 | Brian Roberts

Posted on 04/25/2010 1:00:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 04/25/2010 1:00:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 04/25/2010 1:13:12 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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Wickard v. Filburn
3 posted on 04/25/2010 1:14:44 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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You can bet Obama’s goal is to destroy the 10th amendment. His thugs are already calling Constitutionalists, Tenthers. Like birthers, tenthers will be thought as kooks and loons along with racists. It’s already started. If you want to uphold the Constitution you will be destroyed by Obama.

I was thinking about the new spin on HCR Obama and his thugs have been weaving in the media. I think they are doing it because they figured out there are flaws in the bill that are Unconstitutional and if they don’t put a different spin on it, the bill can be repealed. So they don’t really want to imprison anyone and the IRS agents are there to GIVE you money, not take if from you.


4 posted on 04/25/2010 1:16:58 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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Excellent post. I agree and see a huge crisis ahead and hope and pray Amerika wises up and understands the Constitution soon - they clearly do NOT follow the constitution right now.
We all know the left, the entire Dem congress and the MSM do NOT use the constitution for their guide.

What I don’t get is why our side does not EVER ask them in front of a camera, “if you dislike the constitution so much, what specific items in it are unfair?”

The birth certificate is an issue, but won’t likely come out until after Obama is gone.


5 posted on 04/25/2010 1:19:49 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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This question is ultimately answered by the will of the people.

Who is kidding who here?

Under Chairman Mao were questions answered by the "will of the people?"

Under Josef Stalin were questions answered by the "will of the people?"

Under Pol Pot were questions answered by the "will of the people?"

Under Louis XVI were questions answered by the "will of the people?"

Who exactly declares what the "will of the people" is anyway? The Media? The opinion Polls? The government census?

THe US Constitution can be reinterpreted any way a sufficiently conspiratorial Legal Party wants. In exactly the same way the Bible could be reinterpreted in any way the Medieval Clergy wanted.

The Soviet Union had regular real elections; just all representing the same Party.

We are dealing with Power play, police power. Rahm Emmanuel understands that, it's just that the feckless 75% of American females, and the feckless 50% of American males do not. Living in LaLa Land.

How obvious is it that, besides the Tea Party, America has abandoned its independent Soul? Just like a hundred other fat, spoiled, tired, avaricious, fearful, societies have in past world history.

Johnny Suntrade

6 posted on 04/25/2010 1:29:57 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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Repeal the 14th Amendment and the problem is solved.


7 posted on 04/25/2010 1:37:59 PM PDT by trek
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The 2nd Amendment trumps ALL.


8 posted on 04/25/2010 1:39:54 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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Let's not forget Article III, Section 2 which is a little used but constitutional, Congressional check on the courts:

"In all other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make."

See http://www.robertwelchuniversity.org/Lectures/RWU_Curb_the_Courts.pdf

9 posted on 04/25/2010 1:41:25 PM PDT by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failures of Central Planning.)
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What Good Can A Handgun Do Against an Army...?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242


10 posted on 04/25/2010 1:41:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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I was amused that the left disregarded the constitution when Congress passed healthcare, but when Arizona passed their law, whereby it is illegal to be illegal, they cried “UNCONSTITUTIONAL!”

Lord, help us.

11 posted on 04/25/2010 1:41:44 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Don't Tread on Me)
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"His thugs are already calling Constitutionalists, Tenthers. Like birthers, tenthers will be thought as kooks and loons along with racists. "

Putting "e-r-s" after a word does not settle any question, it just gives the left a cute excuse to dismiss any negatives against them.

Those cowards amongst us who cringe and yell "ouch" when called a "birther", or now a "tenther", are cowards of the lowest order. Whatever you're standing up for, if it's worth standing for, then do it proudly and yell it loud. That's what the First Amendment says we have a right to do, and who is obama or any of his henchmen to tell us different?

The Tenth Amdendment is there, in the Constitution, and it was put there just in case a barack obama ever showed up wanting to be the "king". It's in the Constitution BECAUSE of him, and those like him.

Let's face it, the PEOPLE are all that's left to take back the country for the PEOPLE. The kenyan has commandeered all of the posts that would normally stand for the Constitution, and the PEOPLE...including the media...WE ARE ON OUR OWN.

We are on the front lines, we are the modern version of the Continential Army, and the patriots, except this time using peaceful marches and signs...and we will prevail a second time, if we don't cower. We need to continue to "walk softly", but don't forget the "big stick" part either.

They talk tuff, they push you around when they can, but they also bluff a lot and use fear as a took to grab more and more power. At some point, a line must be drawn and a big sign that says "NO MORE" must be erected and protected. We all know what it takes to change the Constitution, and he won't get rid of the 10th Amendment...not legally anyway, and that's where we come in...or turn out.
12 posted on 04/25/2010 2:12:19 PM PDT by FrankR (Standing up against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future will belong to the tyrants.)
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Good article. Thanks for posting. We are in a huge Constitutional crisis. They have such a stanglehold on the Beltway, I just don't see this being resolved peacefully. Sometimes I wish we could secretly just pick a date and go for it with Revolution II. Obama, the elites and the MSM will not confront the reality that there are 200 million really pissed off armed Patriots out here about ready to burst. Then he rams health care down our throat and laughs at the Tea Parties. He's even thinking of Amnesty? Will that be the tipping point?

It's Just too Late!

13 posted on 04/25/2010 2:12:57 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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The 2nd Amendment PROTECTS ALL THE REST!


14 posted on 04/25/2010 2:36:57 PM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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Plus, I do add, gun sales I have noticed in the last year or two have GONE THROUGH THE ROOF!


15 posted on 04/25/2010 2:40:27 PM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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Thankfully, most are CONSERVATIVE as far as the armed forces is conerned.


16 posted on 04/25/2010 2:41:12 PM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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The crisis can be boiled down to this: The federal government, i.e. Congress, POTUS, and much of the federal courts, believe that the “interstate commerce clause” and the “general health and welfare clause” were written to give the federal government virtually unlimited power. Until we re-establish that the federal government has grossly abused their powers and we reign them in it will continue.


17 posted on 04/25/2010 2:48:35 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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Every person reading this should also read the Kentucky and Virginia resolutions. They will give you a concept of what our union is about.


18 posted on 04/25/2010 2:52:40 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine
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Repeal the 14th Amendment and the problem is solved.

How so? It's the New Deal Commerce Clause that has allowed Congress to control health care, education, the environment, welfare, etc.

19 posted on 04/25/2010 2:57:03 PM PDT by Ken H
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All of your concerns have merit, but they are all dominated by the ineligibility of the the chief executive who authorized the bills and made the appointments. It is not principally a “birth certificate” issue; it is a constitutional issue which needs no proof - no documents. The son of an alien is not eligible to be president. As the author of the 14th Amendment, Ohio Congressman John Bingham, judge, prosecutor of the conspiracy to assassinate Abraham Lincoln, the abolitionist who insured that black people were recognized as citizens consistent with the Declaration of Independence, said to the Joint Session of Congress “I find no fault with the introductory clause which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural-born citizen”.

Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Minor v. Happersett, an 1875 case dealing with citizenship: “At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

This was repeated by two other chief justices and in over a dozen supreme court cases. It has never been contravened. Only a constitutional amendment or a coup can change its meaning. If we give up articles of the Constitution because a vocal few call us names, we have shown we haven't the courage to defend freedom.

Every other transgression of the Constitution must be addressed, but if this clear violation is not addressed, every other transgression is moot. Obama does not have the authority of the Constitution. He is counting upon citizens to tire of insisting upon an issue which he has done a good job of obscuring with hidden documents and the clever Alinsky tactic (hardly original, but effective) of ridicule. More are afraid of being called “Birthers” than of losing their freedoms.

One phenomenon of the current “regime” should be clear; no front is ever off the table. He attacked health care while working on owning the financial industry while proceeding on amnesty for illegals while proceeding on VAT taxes while proceeding on cap and trade while proceeding to driving Israel into the sea for his PLO dinner companion and Harvard sponsors Rashid Khalidi, Whalid bin Talal and al Mansour. Obama's ineligibility remains a fact regardless of whatever insult he adds to our Constitutional foundation. The left counts upon our having a short and shallow memory. Few in our legal establishment were ever taught about Article II, because it was almost never relevant to litigation. We will prove them wrong because we see our freedom to thrive being subjugated.

It isn't about a nonexistent birth certificate; it is about being born of an alien and a subject of the British Commonwealth, a fact asserted by Obama himself many times, which makes him ineligible. If the court doesn't respect the Constitution nothing else they take on can be trusted. The justices are simply keeping their jobs at the pleasure of the Prince, and their “decisions” will be controlled, as they are now, by the executive and legislative branches.

20 posted on 04/25/2010 3:01:31 PM PDT by Spaulding
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