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Retired Army general: Lt. Col. Lakin has 'valid point'
World Net Daily ^ | April 23, 2010 | Chelsea Schilling

Posted on 04/23/2010 8:47:39 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

A retired Army general and national security policy expert says Lt. Col. Terry Lakin has "a valid point" and should use his "right to discovery" to force the Obama administration to produce proof of his natural-born citizenship status.

In an interview with Evil Conservative Radio, Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely said, "I think many in the military – and many out of the military – question the natural-birth status of Barack Obama. … I'm not convinced that he is [a natural-born citizen]."

Vallely, CEO of Stand Up America U.S., graduated from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and was commissioned in the Army in 1961, serving 32 years.

He said he inspected his own long-form birth certificate, and it contains a doctor's name, date and location of birth.

"But he's never been able to produce that," he said of Obama. "His unwillingness to do it also concerns me. I think Lt. Col. Lakin has a valid point. … He refuses to produce a birth certificate that states the witnessing of the birth, the date and who is the doctor. We don't know why he won't come out with that."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; beckisabirther; birthcertificate; certifigate; gibbsisabirther; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaisabirhter; oreillyisabirther; terrylakin; whatisobamahiding; whoisbarackobama
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To: RWGinger

I don’t know. Until he tries taking it to the Supreme Court, I presume we’ll be in the dark.

Obama has unwisely antagonized the Justices, but that is evidently his nature.


301 posted on 04/23/2010 10:06:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: shadowland

Admiral McCain was serving in the zone.

Son, John, was born in the Republic of Panama. At birth, McCain enjoyed dual American-Panamanian citizenship.

Sorry, bud.

This is the law that bestows citizenship on McCain:

Sec. 303. [8 U.S.C. 1403] Persons born in the Canal Zone or the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this Act, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

John McCain is a “statutory” citizen, not a “natural born” citizen.

BY the way, that section appears in the 1996 Rev. of the Immigration and Naturalization Act — McCain was running for vice-president that year. Just a coincidence, I suppose.


302 posted on 04/24/2010 3:37:31 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Again — nothing but opinion, conjecture and bullsh!t.

Don’t send me any more of your hallucinations, unless accompanied by sources and links.

And your comment linking me to Taitz is pitiful. I have nothing to do with her, never supported her and never defended her.

And, I’m not trying to win legal cases. Are you completely crazy? And using the second person singular to list your ravings explicityly implying that I have made those arguments is a feeble attempt to put your silly arguments into my words. Don’t do it. I have never been associated with any of your ridiculous talking points.

Nothing but a ravings of a lunatic— go back to your room.


303 posted on 04/24/2010 3:54:35 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: little jeremiah

I’ve never seen an Obot zotted. They’re all still here.


304 posted on 04/24/2010 3:56:55 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: SatinDoll
When Barak Obama attended Occidental College, in California, he used a SSN with a 999-XX-XXXX prefix. This type of SSN is used by students who are foreign nationals receiving financial aid from the U.S. Government.

reference, citation, PLS

305 posted on 04/24/2010 4:55:31 AM PDT by 1234 ("1984")
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To: Helotes
Check your facts. It is totally possible to have the state of Hawaii issue a COLB without him being born in Hawaii.

It's possible, but it wouldn't show that you were born in Hawaii, as Obama's certificate plainly does.

306 posted on 04/24/2010 5:58:52 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Don’t you find it odd there are no fold marks on the green jpg alleged to be his COLB?


307 posted on 04/24/2010 6:01:35 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Smokeyblue
Our Beloved Leader would not let the army twist with this and start a court marshal on a 18 year veteran and hero.

Only a Arrogant punk dirtbag who hates our country would refuse to show a longform BC at this point. This is our military being f@#kd with now. Our Defense.

Maybe Barak Hussein Binladen doesn't know about this?

308 posted on 04/24/2010 6:24:38 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Mr Rogers
Apparently Congress, the states, the voters and the courts disagree about where the consensus lies...

Well -- how about you???

We have posted to you dozens of times the words of Supreme Court Justices defining "natural born citizen" as one born in the country of two citizens.

Do you accept the definition of these Justices or not??

309 posted on 04/24/2010 6:45:42 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Beckwith

John McCain was a natural born citizan by right of birth. Your posts are sheer idiocy..and I’m not your ‘bud’.


310 posted on 04/24/2010 8:20:45 AM PDT by shadowland
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To: DrC
I am certainly no expert but Puerto Rico calls its self the “Commonwealth of Puerto Rico” (as is the official name of Pennsylvania, Mass, etc) Alaska & Hawaii prior to statehood always were referred to as “territories”. (Remember the “Northwest Territory”?) Ok is all of this sloppy used of the terms “territory” and “commonwealth”?
I don't know!. What's the proper legal (from a political constitutional perspective) distinction of these terms?

Anyone here know?

311 posted on 04/24/2010 8:31:38 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Beckwith; Red Steel

I think RS has a list, there have been a fair number, over time. Now whoever is zotting them is slacking off, for sure.


312 posted on 04/24/2010 9:06:57 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: 1234

I’ve supplied the source several times already.

A private investigator, Neil Sankey, made the discovery.The information about this SSN, and the other 35+ SSN Obama has used in his lifetime, has been included in lawsuits presently making their way up through the court system.


313 posted on 04/24/2010 12:19:15 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: shadowland; Beckwith

Beckwith - shadowland is a troll, been at FR less than 60 days. I ignore the trolls.


314 posted on 04/24/2010 12:21:42 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: SatinDoll

“Beckwith - shadowland is a troll, been at FR less than 60 days. I ignore the trolls.”

I’m a troll because I believe John McCain was a natural born citizen? Odd standards in these parts.


315 posted on 04/24/2010 12:52:48 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: shadowland

You are misinformed, and altogether too emotional.


316 posted on 04/24/2010 2:45:41 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: shadowland
I’m a troll because I believe John McCain was a natural born citizen?

You can believe anything you want.

Many believe in the tooth fairy -- doesn't make it so.

317 posted on 04/24/2010 2:47:15 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith
I’ve never seen an Obot zotted. They’re all still here.

Kinda makes you wanna go, hmmmmmmmmmm!
318 posted on 04/24/2010 2:49:07 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

“Many believe in the tooth fairy — doesn’t make it so.”

Yeah right..a decorated high-ranking officer in the USN..a man who was on the deck of the Missouri when Japan signed the surrender ending WWII, who had a child by an American citizen wife while on station in Panama... in the service of America..that child is not a citizen qualified to be President? You sir are literally unhinged.

Last post on this fruitless topic. I don’t suffer fools indefinitely.


319 posted on 04/24/2010 3:14:50 PM PDT by shadowland
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To: Beckwith; little jeremiah

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320 posted on 04/24/2010 4:16:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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