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To: Responsibility2nd
Mike Huckabee, a possible Republican presidential candidate in 2012 says the effort to allow gays and lesbians to marry is comparable to legalizing incest, polygamy and drug use...

While conservatives all agree on this, I can easily see how the pro-drug Libertarians would be spitting mad over this.

Actually, I had a bit of a problem with that comparison. I think that by comparing gay marriage to drug use he is falling into the same trap a lot of other people do...treating gay marriage as a right to action rather than the positive right it is. The banning of drugs is a ban on certain private behaviors, but the ban on gay marriage is not. Gays can already live together and do whatever they want with each other. A right to gay marriage would require that others recognize them as a married couple, whether they believe in gay marriage or not. This is what makes gay marriage a positive right rather than a traditional individual right. Failure to recognize this (or recognizing it and putting positive rights on the same level as rights to action) is probably my biggest problem with the advocates of gay marriage. So it was a little disheartening to see an opponent of gay marriage make the same mistake.

63 posted on 04/13/2010 2:21:56 PM PDT by murdoog ("Aim high. Shoot straight. Praise the Lord. Audit the FED." Gary North)
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To: murdoog

You totally lost me.

I have no idea where you are coming from with these two terms: ‘Positive rights’ and ‘Right to action’.

I like to stay informed so I went googling. I see these are Libertarian terms.

In case you haven’t noticed; I find Libertarian viewpoints liberal, morally deficient and contemptable.

So when I read that you belive that gay marriage is a positive right, then I really, really wonder how you libs manage to stay on board here on this conservative site.


64 posted on 04/13/2010 2:46:33 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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