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Unwanted Adopted Boy Sent Back To Russia
Sky News ^ | April 9th 2010 | David Williams

Posted on 04/09/2010 11:10:50 AM PDT by Cardhu

A seven-year-old Russian boy who was adopted by an American woman has been sent home on his own with a note saying he was no longer wanted.

Young Artem Savelyev arrived at Moscow airport with the typed note from his adoptive mother which said he was being abandoned after only six months in her care.

Torry-Ann Hansen had admitted to having made a mistake and suggested the boy should be re-housed.

"I no longer wish to parent this child," the unmarried 27-year-old nurse from Tennessee wrote, requesting his adoption be annulled.

She accused the boy's Siberian orphanage of misleading her about Artem's behavioural problems.

Hansen had placed sweets, biscuits and colouring pens in the child's rucksack before checking him onto the 10-hour flight as an unaccompanied minor, reportedly telling him he was going on an "excursion" to Moscow.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: adoption; russia; usa
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To: WayneS

WayneS,

I adopted a daughter from Russia. She was a US citizen the moment our plane’s tires hit US soil. Russia also continues to consider her their citizen and legally requires her to travel to Russia using her Russian passport. She has never gone back, btw.

Boys adopted in Russia can still be conscripted into the armed services when they visit - though I haven’t heard of it happening to anyone.

“Some time ago we adopted a child in Russia and now we want to go there together. Do we have to get Russian visa for our child?

“No, you do not. Children, adopted in Russia, remain Russian citizens till they are 18 years of age (when they can choose their citizenship themselves) and are issued a Russian passport upon adoption. Russian Law does not forbid them to be US citizens at the same time, however, requires them to travel to Russia on their Russian passports.

from: http://www.russianembassy.ru/en/pages/faq


121 posted on 04/09/2010 4:36:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

also see...

“I came here from the former USSR or Russia and received US citizenship. Why do I have to confirm the absence of Russian citizenship in order to get Russian Visa?

“If you are a citizen of Russia and receive US citizenship, it does not mean that you automatically lose your Russian citizenship, because, according to the Law, no person can be deprived of his/her citizenship, but on his/her stated (i.e. put officially in order) will. Russian Law does not forbid you to have several citizenships, however, considers you only a Russian citizen and, therefore, requires you to travel in and out of Russia on your Russian passports.

“Being a State institution, Consulate General enforces the Law of the State, so, every person, whose foreign passports or travel documents indicate his/her place of birth as “Russia” or “USSR”, or one of the states, which constituted former USSR, will be required to present a proof of absence of Russian Citizenship.


122 posted on 04/09/2010 4:37:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: WayneS

Wayne,
Russia considers your child a dual citizen for life. He can renounce his Russian citizenship after age 18, if he desires to. See my posts above this one. You cannot renounce it for a child.
ampu


123 posted on 04/09/2010 4:38:41 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Chickensoup

You should never have kids.


124 posted on 04/09/2010 5:07:23 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: Alkhin

Everything for our daughter looks to be in order and we have a birth certificate for her from MA. We have had to use it for registering for school and Pop Warner with no problems.

When we brought our daughter home,we were told she became an American citizen when we touched down in JFK. We had quite a bit of paper work from the American Embassy in Moscow that eased this process. This was not always the case. During Pres. Bush’s administration, there were some changes to overseas adoptions that allowed for a more streamlined processing. A LOT of paperwork, reviews, court appearances, etc before hand...but all worth it.


125 posted on 04/10/2010 6:44:08 AM PDT by KEmom (Getting ready to hop on the Tea Party Express!!!)
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To: Rutabega

> real insanity

Having a potential pre- psychopath in your house can encourage that.


126 posted on 04/10/2010 7:28:11 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: Dianna

I’m sorry...I guess I have empathy with all parents of mentally ill children, since I also have a daughter with mental illness. But, I do not have empathy with a person who puts a mentally ill child on a plane just to get rid of the problem!

I had no place to send my kid! Should I have sent her back to the doctor? Maybe her grandparents? Because none of them told me that my child would be ill! No one told me that I would have a hard job raising her...that she would be “sicker” than I thought!

My point is, that there are no guarantees with any child. Don’t adopt if you don’t want problems...shoot, don’t have kids if you think you aren’t going to have problems! It is hard. It is hard to be a parent. And if you adopt, you are as stuck as a parent who gave birth to the child. YOU ARE the parent.


127 posted on 04/11/2010 7:56:26 AM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: tuckrdout
I had no place to send my kid! Should I have sent her back to the doctor? Maybe her grandparents? Because none of them told me that my child would be ill! No one told me that I would have a hard job raising her...that she would be “sicker” than I thought!

I worked for awhile with special needs preschoolers. A few had severe behavior problems. I thanked heaven every day that I didn't have to take some of them home with me. I had no emotional attachment to those children. I prayed that their parents did, because without that bone-deep devotion, I didn't know how any of them could cope, day after day, week after week.

128 posted on 04/11/2010 9:09:48 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: KEmom
"I say this because when we brought our daughter home, she became an American Citizen the moment we landed at JFK"

That is (was?) only true when two parents accompanied the child home.....

I alone escorted my child home in 2001....and she was NOT considered a US citizen until my wife and adopted her once again in the US....in reality...she was adopted 2x....once in China and once in the US...

Again, I am not sure if the law has changed to recognize one parent upon arrival.....
129 posted on 04/11/2010 9:29:28 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: old-ager

Exactly why any sane person who wanted to adopt, would educate themselves before they make the attempt to adopt from there. I am sure it would take little more than a goggle search.


130 posted on 04/11/2010 10:17:19 AM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: Dianna

My mother was a school nurse, who took take of the disabled children for a time.

She loved them. She and my father would take some of the kids home for a weekend, just to give the poor parents a break. These parents can not get babysitters, so this was a priceless gift.

You know, we as people can do and withstand anything we set our minds to doing, really. It’s just that some today, just dont push themselves to do anything that is hard.


131 posted on 04/11/2010 10:20:52 AM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: Mr. K

That is what I was wondering. Her agency should be reviewed. I spent hours in training with professionals who told me what horrors I may encounter. I thought I was a seasoned professional who would know how to take care of mine and still found it a lot of work. But.. I had already been asked by my agency what I would do in many of the situations and I did it - using family, etc. to help out when I needed a time out. I feel bad that she should make such a stupid mistake as it will hurt the little one and her forever. I think many feel that a little love will cure all the problems that have been put there and it takes a lot more than that.


132 posted on 04/11/2010 8:05:52 PM PDT by AndieLeigh1
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To: keepitreal

Actually, he did NOT become a citizen unless she had been there for at least one trip prior..


133 posted on 04/11/2010 8:05:52 PM PDT by AndieLeigh1
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To: AndieLeigh1

The child would not have been issued a Russian passport and a US visa unless the adoption had been finalized in a Russian court.

The only difference in the Child Citizenship Act is the type of visa a child comes comes into the US on. The IR-3 is issued when both parents (or in the case of a single parent, just the one parent) have seen the child prior to finalization in the foreign country. IR-4 visas are when only one parent has seen the child and must “readopt” in the US because the non-travelling parent has to see the child and give consent. Children travelling on IR-3 visas obtain citizenship automatically upon entering the US.


134 posted on 04/11/2010 9:13:40 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: Mr. K
"As a general rule what??? Men are less fit than women as parents?"

"As a general rule...."....children should be raised by both a mother (female) and father (male).
And no, that's not something I just made up - most studies (even those sponsored by liberal concerns) validate this view.
And I had salted my response with an amount of praise and grace towards you so you wouldn't jump on the "I'm offended" wagon - but some people may just long to be offended.

135 posted on 04/12/2010 2:16:14 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: old-ager

Already have one.


136 posted on 04/12/2010 7:15:48 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Thanks for the link.


137 posted on 04/12/2010 7:31:22 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Psalm 73

Geez you are just full of “i can insult you but you are so mean you will probably be insulted”

Take your sexist horsesh$t and cram it


138 posted on 04/12/2010 11:12:35 AM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Mr. K
Sexist - HA!
This is one of the many reasons why children need both a mother and a father - you are much too full of yourself, but you knew that.
139 posted on 04/12/2010 4:36:26 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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