Posted on 04/08/2010 10:05:17 AM PDT by Zakeet
Edited on 04/08/2010 10:20:23 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Yeah, but it’s hard to get those guys to come on TV to make comments....
It would still be vulnerable to being taken over by the wrong people, who would use it to endorse or promote the wrong people.
But I don't see how it can stay unorganized for long. I prefer it to stay unorganized but wonder in the real world if that is possible. Someone's going to organize. Even if the original organizer is one of the good guys, organizations can be taken over.
A longwinded way of saying I still haven't figured this out. Will continue reading thread.
So now you are admonishing not to support the TEA Party movement too? How about Carl Rove -last year he was on your hit list - you were never going to support anyone who had anything to do with Carl Rove. Why don’t you just admit you are a paid consultant and independent groups hurt your ability to get money to your client.
Hos 12:7
7 The merchant uses dishonest scales;
he loves to defraud.
NIV
Ex 32:8
8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, 'These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.'
NIV
When fundamental changes in our government come (back to a Republic) they will come because we will have candidates for National office who have been tempered in the forges of local politics, state office, and who have proven not only their worth as statesmen but their steadfast nature as followers of the Constitution.
Real change will not come from the top down, only remedies for the current sickness which has invaded the Republic at virtually all levels.
While it is important to have large organizations, the heavy lifting will be done at the local and state level.
It isn't the Christian Coalition who feeds the hungry in my community, it is the local churches. Yet both Organizations have their place.
I am a member of the NRA, have been for decades. That does not mean I abandon the local and State issues to the NRA: if so, darned few would get any attention. While the NRA acts as a fire brigade to help with a few nationally important local fights, they generally have not been there to fight those fights as local and state gunowners' organizations have been, and at the core of any effort are the energized individuals who donate freely of their time, money, and talent to get the job done.
The TEA party movement is an assemblage of the latter who have organized for the purpose of fighting at the local, state, ad national level, but we have organized from the bottom up. The NRA is a top-down organization. The GOP is a top-down organization. Each has their place, but I would not give up the involvement and shadetree activism of the TEA party movement for an easily villified or co-opted National Tea Party (as in political party) any more than I would give up my local gun club.
I especially do not like the relative vulnerability of a national organization, particularly when the press seek to villify a movement millions strong on the basis of a non-event (someone allegedly spitting and calling someone names--even though there is no evidence of that), because it will only take one 'poster child', possibly even a plant, to engage in acts so wretched that the whole movement could be shut down by force and/or 'popular' opinion.
That has been the angle of the whole racist/redneck/neonazi/domestic terrorist canard in the MSM, to try to get one villified if nameless person to represent the whole movement to shut it down. It is the lack of structure which has made that impossible.
Solidify the structure, and there is something to strike, whereas local organizations are like smoke--there, visible, but not solid enough to hit, no matter how many are present.
Local organizations have done quite well at coordinating and cooperating, even to the national level.
On the other hand, there is a national organization, ready to go with a few personnel changes, which has ballot recognition and a cadre who will likely follow it regardless, and who will siphon off a large part of the vote, regardless of who they prop up as a candidate. I would just as soon see our efforts go to siezing significant control of that vehicle rather than reinventing the wheel, and that will be done where the rubber meets the road.
Just keep the federal government at its constitutional limits where it belongs and nobody gets hurt. Let the states handle the rest theyre well able.
[Just keep the federal government at its constitutional limits where it belongs and nobody gets hurt.]
"TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men".
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Primary the RINOS out...we don't need to divide the conservative voting power.
Could be a good thing, get on the same message page. Just as long as they don’t loose focus on the long term goal...conservatives in congress and the WH. Social issues will get fixed when you do so.
Well, I’m a great believer in the Constitutional Republic that was set up by the Constitution where the default of power, as the 10th Amendment reminds us, goes to the states and the people and only specific powers from the Constitution are DELEGATED to the federal government.
>>goes to the states
The States that allowed the Free Marketing of slaves to satisfy the demand of those who wanted to own them?
No Sale.
Again as a protector of our freedoms within Constitutional bounds, the federal government is, as you like to put it, a useful idiot.
Great job!
Thanks for posting me.
>>14th Amendment
The one that granted Corporations personhood and thus the inalienable rights intended for INDIVIDUAL human beings?
Brilliant! NOT.
I ~will concede that local and state government are more easily held accountable for securing the rights of the individual than the Federal monstrosity. But even at that level, the task is formidable.
Yes, our 912 Project group asks for a $5.00 donation to cover costs. We have had as many as 200 attendees at a meeting, so that helps defray costs.
Which is nice, except that $1000 wouldn't buy you a quarter-page ad in any one newspaper, or a single voice spot on a major radio station -- forget about a TV ad on anything other than the local public access channel.
The Tea Parties need a lot more than that to get their message out.
I feel great I learned something today. That was off Flikr.
Now I have to have a mentor to show me how to be able to type in various type styles, and all the other things you can do in a normal Word Doc. This I have not mastered.
Thanks again,
Jeff
I'm thrilled for you. I knew you would figure it out and so you did. I wasn't much help, but appreciate the "Thank You" ;))
Now, just ping me to other photos you post!
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