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Obama eyes interns: Democrats move to deny useful job training to young workers
Washington Times ^ | April 7, 2010 | Editorial

Posted on 04/06/2010 8:11:56 PM PDT by JohnRLott

The Obama administration's top law enforcement officer at the Labor Department, M. Patricia Smith, is targeting companies that give young people unpaid internships. She claims that internships are rife with abusive practices and that serious violations of labor law are widespread. Arguing that interns should get paid at least minimum wage, Ms. Smith and the White House risk destroying a valuable steppingstone that gives many young Americans training they need to get jobs they want in the future.

Unpaid internships are valuable for many reasons. Most simply, they help people test whether they are a good fit for a particular industry. If interns like the type of work at particular companies, internships can help them get the training and contacts they need to make their career aspirations a reality. The short time that interns spend at jobs - often just two to three months - makes it difficult for firms to both train these young people and get much work out of them. From manufacturing to nonprofits to media companies such as The Washington Times, hands-on opportunities open through internships are almost endless. . . .

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: april; interns; regulation; washingtontimes
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1 posted on 04/06/2010 8:11:56 PM PDT by JohnRLott
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To: JohnRLott

If somebody works, they ought to get paid for it. I’ve got no problem with this.


2 posted on 04/06/2010 8:19:16 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke

Not the point, but then I’m not going to write an essay to explain it.


3 posted on 04/06/2010 8:24:13 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: The Duke

Not saying that I don’t agree, but, for example, I recently went back to school for a technical trade I wanted to learn about (in addition to my former formal schooling), and I had to make kitchen cabinets, which the school collected money on. I therefore was working, but had to pay for the experience.

Interns are not just cheap labor, they are learning a skill which can be used on a resume. In general, new employees, trainees, and interns, cost more to train than they produce, so, to me, it’s easier to not pay them and give them the opportunity to learn, rather then charge them to do the same, or worse, give them NO experience.

Does that change your mind at all?


4 posted on 04/06/2010 8:24:24 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: rockinqsranch

See my post at #4, does it reflect any of your viewpoint?


5 posted on 04/06/2010 8:25:08 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: The Duke

“If somebody works, they ought to get paid for it. I’ve got no problem with this.”

I agree... minimum wage at least...


6 posted on 04/06/2010 8:25:16 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: The Duke

It’s a way for people that have very limited experience, like college students, to get their foot in the door. Like a minimum wage, eliminating unpaid internships only hurts those on the bottom trying to work their way up.


7 posted on 04/06/2010 8:26:16 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: JohnRLott

Unless you are a high school student and still living at home, this is a terrible burden to gain experience. Many people cannot afford that kind of sacrifice.


8 posted on 04/06/2010 8:27:09 PM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: bahblahbah

you have got to be kidding !!

This is a FREE MARKET

Interns take these positions of their free will.

If they need money or don’t want to work for free then they shouldn’t take the job.

This is an exchange that both parties agree on.


9 posted on 04/06/2010 8:29:54 PM PDT by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: ChurtleDawg

I’m sorry but that’s just not correct. College students do it all the time. Many are considered falling behind if they don’t have an internship on their resume.


10 posted on 04/06/2010 8:31:00 PM PDT by Lost Highway (I don't know what the world may need but a V8 engines a good start for me)
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To: JohnRLott

Oh, please. These interns take these positions knowing they are gaining valuable training. They don’t have to take the position. If they want a paying job, they can find one.


11 posted on 04/06/2010 8:35:34 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: rockinqsranch; The Duke

Dear Duke: Rocky has a major point - pay is not the point! My grandson couldn’t find a job after finishing college in hotel and restaurant management. After a lot of nagging by me and some work on his presentation, he “volunteered” to work at a hotel. After a month of very, very long days busting his butt for no money but free lunch and dinner, he was offered a full-time position at a great salary for a young guy in a fabulous resort city right on the beach! Kids don’t often know what they want to do so a chance at internship helps them decide if they have the skills or if it something they would enjoy, at least for a while. College does not teach kids what real work life is like, an internship does.


12 posted on 04/06/2010 8:36:02 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Zeneta
I knew it was in there somewhere....

The O Force worries that unpaid internships might disadvantage less-affluent students, who might not be able to afford to spend their summers at unpaid jobs

Obama, brings you down and builds nobody up.

Make interns a paying job and the internship programs go away.
Those that would have been interns will now look for and get paying jobs.

Guess what ? the disadvantage are now further disadvantage
13 posted on 04/06/2010 8:38:55 PM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: JohnRLott

Does this mean that the Obama campaign owes back wages to all those young ‘interns’ who worked to get him elected?


14 posted on 04/06/2010 8:39:03 PM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: The Duke

I was an intern in a corporate law department when I was a law student. I didn’t need Uncle Sam involved in “protecting” me from this corporation. I gained incredible experience, made many good contacts and furthered my career.


15 posted on 04/06/2010 8:39:47 PM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: JohnRLott

How about giving older people (who have the means to support themselves while this is going on) the same opportunities? Ageism!


16 posted on 04/06/2010 8:41:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: The Duke

Ditto here. Unpaid labor is nothing more than slavery. Worse, actually, for the slave at least got food, clothing, and shelter.


17 posted on 04/06/2010 8:43:43 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: ChurtleDawg

A lot of older folks would almost kill to be able to make this “sacrifice” in this time where employers can demand left handed unicycle acrobats with six months’ or more on the job experience and find their lobby packed with applicants.


18 posted on 04/06/2010 8:44:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Grams A
Exactly -2 of my granddaughters had internships in the area of their interests - one with Disney, one with the fanciest bakery/delicatessen in the state.

The Disney gal, who majored in Hotel management, now works in Disney Worlds flagship hotel, the other gal in the no.2, only after the owner, of the bakery.
Both doing very well - because of internships

19 posted on 04/06/2010 8:45:04 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: gogogodzilla

What, I lose MY right to volunteer?

Besides it isn’t for nothing. It’s for creds to future employers who would otherwise turn me away. This is like saying universities should pay students for doing schoolwork!


20 posted on 04/06/2010 8:45:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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