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To: presidio9; Eagle Eye; metmom; All

“We condemn the women who have them for one reason, plain and simple: The are murdering their own child for being inconvenient.”
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You “condemn”, yet, I will pray for you to have compassion, as I did, when taking care of these women who choose “murdering their own child for being inconvenient”, as you put it.

Abortions are sad and traumatic, but there are far worse things than abortion. Blaming 10YO girls for not wanting to carry a rapists baby, Daddy’s baby/ your own half-sister or half-brother is one of them. I find that offensive and call parents who do that “murdering their own child for being inconvenient” and being a victim of rape. I’m sure you have heard the statistics on that. If not, there’s always Google.


321 posted on 04/06/2010 11:14:17 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: JouleZ

“Abortions are sad and traumatic, but there are far worse things than abortion. Blaming 10YO girls for not wanting to carry a rapists baby, Daddy’s baby/ your own half-sister or half-brother is one of them.”

Firstly, no one is going to hold a ten-year-old girl to adult standards of comprehension. Your attack on some unnamed people for supposedly doing something that in fact is never done (in this country) is, therefore, something of a mystery.

Are you just trying to slur people who disapprove of baby-killing, or are you really so misguided as to believe that pro-life people would actually feel malice toward a girl in a situation such as you describe? Either way, it is as offensive as it is false.

That said, you really think that “blaming” someone is as bad as *killing* a person? Really? Maybe we should make “blaming” a capital crime.

“I find that offensive and call parents who do that “murdering their own child for being inconvenient” and being a victim of rape.”

If you do say that, which I doubt, you should be aware that such a notion would be totally irrational—completely out of touch with reality in all regards.

“I’m sure you have heard the statistics on that. If not, there’s always Google.”

I’m sure that Google positively drips with made-up “statistics” on such things.

In any case, advising an innocent person not to commit or be complicit in the unjustified killing of an innocent person is hardly murder.

Personally, I find it terrifying to discover that there is a person who actually holds such opinions as you expressed here.


323 posted on 04/07/2010 4:42:09 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: JouleZ

Being new here, you may not have found that FR is anti-abortion. It may be illogical to you, but that’s how it is. As you see on this thread, there are any number of libertarians who want to pull our chain occasionally, but that doesn’t change the dynamics. Especially when their arguments are so vapid.

Sorry, but I can’t equate vague statements such as “Blaming 10YO girls for not wanting to carry a rapists baby” with the murder of one’s unborn child. Never could, never will.

But choosing abortion simply for the convenience factor is the overwhelming reason for abortions in America today. And since you, by your own words, have apparently counseled women who have had abortions, I expect you’d know that.

In short, welcome to FR, but don’t for a moment believe that a pro-abortion stance will get any traction here. And by pro-abortion stance, I mean any agenda that allows room for the murder (for that’s what it is) of an unborn child.


325 posted on 04/07/2010 6:50:06 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: Hokus Pokus POTUS)
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To: JouleZ; presidio9; bcsco; metmom; P-Marlowe; xzins; Coleus; narses; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; ...
Abortions are sad and traumatic, but there are far worse things than abortion.

Like what?

I find that offensive and call parents who do that “murdering their own child for being inconvenient” and being a victim of rape. I’m sure you have heard the statistics on that. If not, there’s always Google.

What statistics are you referring to? There are approximately 4000 to 5000 pregnancies per year as the result of rape and not all of these women choose to have abortions.

There are a handful of women each year who are actually in danger of dying if they don't have an abortion (the actual number is so low that no statistics even exist).

There are OVER 1.3 MILLION abortions in the United States. An American baby is aborted EVERY 24 SECONDS.

So, there are AT MOST 5000 abortions in America each year that are the result of rape or actual medical necessity. But there are still over 1.3 MILLION abortions that are strictly for convenience, what is you opinion of those? What is "far worse" than those abortions?

329 posted on 04/07/2010 7:14:37 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: JouleZ
You “condemn”, yet, I will pray for you to have compassion, as I did, when taking care of these women who choose “murdering their own child for being inconvenient”, as you put it.

Abortions are sad and traumatic, but there are far worse things than abortion. Blaming 10YO girls for not wanting to carry a rapists baby, Daddy’s baby/ your own half-sister or half-brother is one of them. I find that offensive and call parents who do that “murdering their own child for being inconvenient” and being a victim of rape. I’m sure you have heard the statistics on that. If not, there’s always Google.

I condemn the mothers who kill their own offspring through abortion. I didn't say I didn't have any compassion for them. I didn't say I wanted them charged as murders. I just can't see any legal justification for their actions. That being said the most severe punishment for their crimes will come when they meet their Maker.

And your tired examples of 7 year old girls impregnated by their uncles won't gain trackion with anyone on this website. I am on record as saying the law should stipulate in such cases, but it's actually irrelevant. Rape and incest represent statistically insignificant numbers of abortions. People who approve of abortion like bringing them up because they get a lot of play, but virtually all women who get abortion are healthy and just don't want the hassle of pregnancy.

514 posted on 04/09/2010 1:58:21 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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