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Argentina demands turnover of Falklands
upi ^ | April 3, 2010

Posted on 04/03/2010 11:43:48 AM PDT by JoeProBono

BUENOS AIRES, - Argentina marked the anniversary of the 1982 Falklands war with a parade, and the country's president says Britain should turn over the islands .

Argentina invaded the Falklands, claiming they were part of its sovereign territory, but a British counter-invasion defeated the Argentines, who lost 904 lives.

President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner delivered a national address on the anniversary Friday from Ushuaia, which was the hub of the Argentine military operations during the 1982 conflict, The Times of London reported. Under Argentine law it is the capital of the region that encompasses the islands, which Argentina calls the Malvinas, which lie some 340 miles out to sea.

Kirchner said Britain's claim of "sovereignty from a distance of 14,000 kilometers (about 8,700 miles) is not sustainable, neither historically, nor legally, nor geographically -- but, above all, it is not sustainable logically," The Times reported.

She added: "It's not an exercise of sovereignty but rather colonialism and probably the last such one. The question of the Malvinas is a stain that should be rubbed out."

After she spoke, war veterans held a march in Buenos Aires shouting, "Give us back our islands!" and "Out with the pirates!".

Hundreds of veterans and militant political groups gathered in the Buenos Aires banging drums and carrying sticks, finally converging on the British Embassy. Riot police were deployed to control them, The Times said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: argentina; britain; falklands; jpb; latinamerica
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To: marron

It’s all about oil.


121 posted on 04/03/2010 7:20:38 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot ( Nov. 2, 2010, Circle the Date)
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To: JoeProBono
Oh, goody. Now that the fascist has run into too much trouble at home, having screwed the Argentine economy, she's now going to do what every tyrant, true to form, does: go looking for foreign entanglements and wars to keep the sheeple at home distracted.

Don't look now folks, but Obastard and the democrats are following the Kirchner playbook to a tee, so whatever the Kirchners get into, you can be sure Obastard and the democrats will be doing the same in very short order.

Obamareich Standard, small version
122 posted on 04/03/2010 7:24:22 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Cacique
Murricans!

People who live in the Untied States of Murrica!

123 posted on 04/03/2010 7:24:37 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: JoeProBono
ten bucks says Ungland coughs them up this time without even firing a shot...
124 posted on 04/03/2010 7:33:14 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: ksm1

Great Britain had a navy then with our logistical backing.
Things are slightly different now.

Heating up everywhere these days.


125 posted on 04/03/2010 7:35:19 PM PDT by LFOD (Presently - Back in Dixie)
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To: cowtowney

obama will side AGAISNT the UK!


126 posted on 04/03/2010 7:44:49 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Cacique; Lazamataz

“She’s ugly in my book. Us Argentinians have far better looking women.”
I’d rather hit Susana Gimenez. She’s might be more conservative, too;)


127 posted on 04/03/2010 7:59:31 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: MinorityRepublican

I agree. The Brits have had near 30 years to beef up and study defense of the islands. Their submarine force negates any impact of the Argentine navy.

Personnel fired anti aircraft rockets are 1-2 generations ahead of what was available 30 years ago.

The Argies could win but it would be at significant cost.


128 posted on 04/03/2010 8:08:35 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Lazamataz

I was about to ask if you would...


129 posted on 04/03/2010 8:09:03 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: LastNorwegian

Actually, I’m afraid that a few of them (Marines) were also caught up in the moment ~ smiling and waving along with the naval personnel ~ but, yeah, the 3 guys on the right look the way one would hope a Marine would look after such an ordeal.

In several local papers, the 3 on the right had actually been cropped out of the image.


130 posted on 04/03/2010 8:15:31 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Live Free or Fight!!")
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To: JoeProBono

Argentina is going to make a move, eventually, because they know that as long as Obama is in power, Britain is not going to get as much a a lifted finger from us on their behalf.

The Israelis just tell us to pound sand, and I don’t blame them a bit. Two of our closest allies think we are crap now. And rightfully so.


131 posted on 04/03/2010 8:15:44 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: john drake
"...maybe Hilary’s looking for a little “Latina” action..."

...or un-thought...

132 posted on 04/03/2010 8:18:03 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: b4its2late

The Argentinans well could have won the 1982 war. Some extremely bad upper level leadership.

There were a lot of minor things that had huge impacts - the day the Argentianian carrier was attempting a strike on the British task force, there wasn’t enough wind for their Skyhawks to take off (incredibly rare in the South Atlantic for this to happen.)

An Argentinian sub stalked the two British carriers, and had several good shots, while never being detected. However, a crewman had attempted to clean the contacts of two wires in their fire control system, and switched them when he replaced them; this caused all the torpedoes they fired to go out of control after being fired.

And perhaps most importantly the Argentinian bombs were being dropped at such low altitudes that they weren’t detonating; had all Argentinian bombs that hit ships detonated, the losses probably would have been severe enough to cripple the invasion force.

Would have helped if the Argentian Air Force had targeted the transports more instead of warships on their bomb runs.

However, since 1982, while the British military obviously has shrunk and suffered severe budget cuts, the Argentinian military and navy have weakened EVEN MORE.

Argentinians have no chance now.


133 posted on 04/03/2010 8:18:21 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: JoeProBono

The woman is a left wing lunatic with a friend in our White House....


134 posted on 04/03/2010 8:27:37 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Strategerist

It is the story of war, plain and simple.

The unexpected coupled with the simple mistake or misjudgment snowballs to alter the course of a battle.

Washington evacuating the Continental forces to Manhattan, saved from being annihilated by a thick fog bank that concealed them from both the British Army and the British fleet. A trick of the climate.

The US Marines landing on Tarawa, get stuck on the reef because of a freakish variation in the predicted tide patterns.

And so on.


135 posted on 04/03/2010 8:32:38 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rlmorel

Although that mistake on Tarawa did not alter the course of the battle, it DID cost many men their lives.


136 posted on 04/03/2010 8:34:17 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Let's Roll

bump


137 posted on 04/03/2010 8:35:25 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Argentinian President Cristina Kirchner... April 07, 2008... two-day visit to the French capital, to discuss Colombia's hostage crisis and to renegotiate Argentina's foreign debt.
Thanks JoeProBono.
138 posted on 04/03/2010 8:38:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: rlmorel

er...it DID alter the course, but not the outcome, which is what I meant!


139 posted on 04/03/2010 8:48:16 PM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Perdogg
NOT GUILTY!!!

...oops, wrong thread. :-)

...(brightening...)

...but not as "NOT GUILTY" as

Cheers!

140 posted on 04/03/2010 8:51:06 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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