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3D-face creator says Shroud proves resurrection (scientific evidence of resurrection?)
Worldnetdaily ^ | 04/02/2010

Posted on 04/02/2010 1:16:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

3D-face creator says Shroud proves resurrection 'Jesus was more than just a spiritual event'

Ray Downing and John Jackson, a physics lecturer at the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs who runs the Turin Shroud Center of Colorado (photo courtesy History Channel)

"People are not going to forget the face of Jesus this Easter," says Ray Downing, creator of the 3D computer technology that produced the "real face of Jesus" from the image of the crucified man in the Shroud of Turin. The image was seen in a highly watched History Channel special broadcast Tuesday. The program will be replayed Saturday night and Easter Sunday afternoon.

"Jesus was more than just a spiritual event," Downing said. "Studying the Shroud to produce the 3D face of Jesus, we encountered scientific evidence that the resurrection was a real physical event that happened in a moment of time 2,000 years ago."

In the two-hour documentary, Downing brought together science and religion by using cutting-edge computer technology to create a life-like image from the Shroud of Turin of the man millions have believed for centuries to be Jesus Christ.

The History Channel told WND the documentary was viewed by more than 2.2 million people, an 83 percent increase for the Tuesday 9 p.m. to 11 p.m. Eastern Time slot in which the documentary was first aired this week.

"The Shroud of Turin provides actual scientific proof that Jesus rose from the dead," Downing contended.

He said the shroud is encoded with a message undecipherable until the most recent advances of modern particle physics.

"Properly understood, the code contained in the Shroud of Turin records the moment of the resurrection," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: medievalfake; medievalforgery; medievalfraud; resurrection; shroud; shroudofturin
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To: Tramonto

No picking on Catholics! It ain’t cool.


21 posted on 04/02/2010 1:47:22 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: al_c
I found it very interesting as well, and I too noticed his tears.

I for one believe this is the shroud that covered Jesus, I see no reason not to, and there is nothing on that shroud to prove it is false.

It was not painted, it is a visual of a man who was crucified. Only a resurrection energy could have caused that imprint to happen, that's Jesus.

I believe his mother saved that shroud, as any grieving mother would and it was passed down to her family.

There is no reason to believe that GOD would care if we knew what he looked like in the human. None that I can see.

Do believers need this to have the faith in our Lord Jesus? NO.

22 posted on 04/02/2010 1:49:19 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Joe 6-pack

Thomas was doubting that the man he saw before him was Jesus. Not the resurrection. And from that we can assume that Jesus did not look the same as he did before the crucifiction. He wasn’t recognized. So, I say again it doesn’t matter what he looked like. It won’t matter what I looked like once I’m gone. It won’t mean I didn’t exist.


23 posted on 04/02/2010 1:51:34 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Swordmaker

ping-a-ling


24 posted on 04/02/2010 1:51:56 PM PDT by GregoTX (I am the resistance)
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To: Joe 6-pack

He offered him physical evidence.

Good point. I was particularly impressed by the over-laying of another blood stained cloth that they used to show how the blood stains on the face matched up. I first heard of the Shroud in 1964 and believed in its authenticity then. To see how advances in technology over the years have failed to detract from it, but have rather enhanced its legitimacy, is nothing short of miraculous.


25 posted on 04/02/2010 1:54:36 PM PDT by Paisan
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To: alstewartfan; All
“I’ll be watching the history channel at 8PM on Saturday to see the special.”

I saw the show early this week (Tuesday). I was leery because of the rather anti-Christian bias that as crept into a lot of History Channel programs lately, but I was pleasantly surprised. The show was reverent, and produced by Christians. It's a good show. However, it's a good 40 minute story crammed in to 2 hours.

As for the naysayers that claim the shroud isn't important or that it's not Christ's burial wrappings: it is important; it has been part of Christendom's hard evidence of Jesus’s reality and resurrection for almost 2 thousand years. (No, it wasn't made in the 1300s as the faulty radiocarbon test indicates; there is written and pictorial proof that the shroud was venerated much earlier in the Byzantine empire.)

As for knowing what our Lord actually looked like in human form; it IS fascinating to see one of Akiane’s paintings certified as authentic portraiture!!!

Is the shroud essential to belief? Of course not. Is it fascinating, and does it bring the observer closer to Christ? YES.

Enjoy the show!

26 posted on 04/02/2010 1:56:08 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: ReneeLynn; mdmathis6; Joe 6-pack
What does it matter what he looked like?

It matters that He had one, particular specific appearance, same as you or me.

Otherwise, He didn't have a true human nature.

If He wasn't true God AND true Man, if He didn't live, die for our sins, and rise to bring us eternal life ... all for real, not play-acting, not just a story, not some sort of simulation ... then our faith is in vain.

27 posted on 04/02/2010 1:57:58 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Tramonto
I’m not Roman Catholic, but THAT was uncalled for!
28 posted on 04/02/2010 1:58:01 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you.


29 posted on 04/02/2010 1:58:46 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: annieokie
"There is no reason to believe that GOD would care if we knew what he looked like in the human. None that I can see."

Yes and no :-) One critical belief of Christianity is that Christ was a corporeal, flesh and blood man. One quality and characteristic of all humans is "appearance," and consequently, this was also a quality of Christ...just as having ten finger, two eyes, a nose etc. Now, Christianity isn't contingent on whether Christ was tall, short, handsome, homely, bearded, clean shaven, etc...those things don't matter, but what does matter is that He did have a human appearance.

Christians of vastly different cultures and races have portrayed Christ in a manner that has made it easier perhaps for them to form an identity and more personal relationship with Him, and in and of itself, I don't see anything wrong with that. Having said that, He did have an earthly, human persona and image, and I think any person with a burning desire to know Christ as fully, intimately and personally as possible can help but speculate about and want to know what he truly looked like...

Just my two cents...

30 posted on 04/02/2010 1:59:19 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Thank you.


31 posted on 04/02/2010 2:00:53 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

We seem to be on the same track, here.


32 posted on 04/02/2010 2:01:50 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Nichts zu Danken!


33 posted on 04/02/2010 2:02:08 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He looks remarkably like a French Lord of the Middle Ages.


34 posted on 04/02/2010 2:02:17 PM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: ReneeLynn
"Thomas was doubting that the man he saw before him was Jesus. Not the resurrection."

So he believed Christ had risen from the dead, but some body else was pretending to be Him?

35 posted on 04/02/2010 2:03:40 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
"""and I think any person with a burning desire to know Christ as fully, intimately and personally as possible can help but speculate about and want to know what he truly looked like...""""""

Just my two cents...

I like your 2 cents, and I agree.

36 posted on 04/02/2010 2:14:21 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Joe 6-pack

He doubted the man before him was Jesus.

But let’s not get away from the topic of whether this shroud face is Jesus or not. The shroud has never been a big thing to me. Even when Jesus was walking the earth people did not believe He was who He said He was. Some seem to think a shroud will cinch it with non-believers. I’m not one of them.


37 posted on 04/02/2010 2:14:40 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Of course he had a specific appearance. Isn’t that a given? It has nothing to do with our faith though.


38 posted on 04/02/2010 2:16:36 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: ReneeLynn
The shroud has never been a big thing to me.

And to others, it is a big thing. Vive la difference.

Even when Jesus was walking the earth people did not believe He was who He said He was.

And some did believe He was who He said He was. Consider, just for three examples, Simon Peter, the Roman centurion, and the one of ten cured lepers who returned to thank Him. There were many others.

39 posted on 04/02/2010 2:19:49 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ReneeLynn
Of course he had a specific appearance. Isn’t that a given? It has nothing to do with our faith though.

It has nothing to do with our faith in what? That He was true God AND true Man? The latter demands, as you acknowledge, that He had a specific appearance.

Perhaps (just maybe, IMHO) He left the shroud as a sign to a materialistic and unbelieving age that "Yes indeed, folks, I REALLY WAS HERE".

40 posted on 04/02/2010 2:22:43 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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