Sometime parents can do EVERYTHING right and their kids STILL do dumb things.
Parents need to do even more then... if a kid has a drinking problem like that, because that's going to ruin the rest of the kid's life, just on the basis of that problem alone, not to say anything about rape.
Sure, you do have problems with certain people (and that's "kids" who grow up into "adults") -- who seem to disconnect their "choices" in life with certain things that may happen to them.
I would go as far as possible with the "education" part of it, saying that it would be like someone deciding to run every red light that they see, when driving. They may get by a lot of red lights -- but I can pretty well guarantee them -- that they are going to get into an accident. And I can guarantee it by "their own choices"... alone.
And thus, I could say to a girl that even though it's a crime for some other guy(s) to do so, in a situation like described -- I can "guarantee you" that you are going to get raped in those types of situations if you keep it up.
So, the question becomes, "Does the girl want to keep up her choice in doing that, knowing that it's a guaranteed certainty that she'll get raped at some time, from that type of choice that she makes consistently?"
And I would also point out that it can happen in just "one instance" of it happening.
Then I would point out that the justice system "may" end up getting the legal justice that is mandated by law -- but also point out that this kind of justice, no matter if carried out to the full extent -- will never undo what has been done.
Why aren’t you asking why the fathers of the rapists didn’t tell their dumbass sons not to rape girls?
I think I said the same thing, in terms of the guys not having respect for girls, taking advantage of an opportunity, not knowing how to control their "horniness" and "buying into" the highly sexualized atmosphere of society, at large.
See Post #34 ...
I've also said in other posts (in the past) about the younger generation engaging in these types of activities and that it is being done (all sorts of sexual behavior with youngsters), either knowingly or not -- and that this is a direct result of the lack of teaching of the correct "worldview" that we live in today (Post-modernism, lack of a Biblical worldview and the highly sexualized atmosphere that we live in, in this society) -- all contributing to it.
People are giving young people totally mixed messages all throughout society by "actions" of other people, plus what is being taught to them in schools (and in society in general and by the peer group) -- to the point where they are actually being programmed into this type of activity.
Parents need to do much, much more than simply "impress greatly" upon their kids, about these things -- they need to given them a completely different "worldview" than the world they are growing up in (and thus, teach them to totally reject the current worldview and the reasons why) -- and give them the correct worldview by both "example" (of the parents) and their "teaching", too.
You seem to be in denial about the reality of teenagers.
You wrote:
“Parents need to do even more then... if a kid has a drinking problem like that, because that’s going to ruin the rest of the kid’s life, just on the basis of that problem alone, not to say anything about rape.”
That would assume the parents knew. The girl wasn’t living at home. The parents had no idea until she was busted by the cops. And they couldn’t get her to stop. That’s why they finally cut her off financiall - and that didn’t work either.
“And thus, I could say to a girl that even though it’s a crime for some other guy(s) to do so, in a situation like described — I can “guarantee you” that you are going to get raped in those types of situations if you keep it up.”
Yes, and that would NOT STOP many teen girls from doing do it. Either way, the boys are the rapists. The girl is just someone who drank too much.
“So, the question becomes, “Does the girl want to keep up her choice in doing that, knowing that it’s a guaranteed certainty that she’ll get raped at some time, from that type of choice that she makes consistently?””
This is not about you and your hypothetical conversations with wayward girls. This is about a real rape. Period. They’re rapists. She did NOTHING that was rape. They did.
“And I would also point out that it can happen in just “one instance” of it happening.”
Again, this is not about YOU. Most teens simply won’t listen to you. Many teens drink. Should they? No. Few teens rape. Should they? OF COURSE NOT!!! That is the issue here.
“Then I would point out that the justice system “may” end up getting the legal justice that is mandated by law — but also point out that this kind of justice, no matter if carried out to the full extent — will never undo what has been done.”
Again, this is not about you. What you would point out is most likely meaningless to a teen. Quite frankly teens can pick up when an adult just like sto drone on about themselves and their own views. A teen girl would most likely tune you out in a heart beat. I sure hope you don’t blame your own kids if they’re ever raped.
“I think I said the same thing, in terms of the guys not having respect for girls, taking advantage of an opportunity, not knowing how to control their “horniness” and “buying into” the highly sexualized atmosphere of society, at large.”
Taking advantage of an opportunity? A teen girl is only an opportunity to you? Not being able to control their “horniness”? You think that’s what this is about? Man, you have no idea of what you’re talking about.