Posted on 03/22/2010 7:15:03 AM PDT by blam
One Thing That's 100% Guaranteed: The Healthcare Bill Will NEVER Be Repealed
Joe Weisenthal
Mar. 22, 2010, 9:36 AM
Already Republicans plan on introducing a bill this week to repeal last night's historic healthcare vote.
Obviously that's going nowhere.
But looking out, Republicans will probably try to run on repeal in the runup until November. It's possible that will play okay at the ballot (we don't know) but anyone who thinks this is a realistic prospect is smoking something illegal.
First of all, to repeal the vote would be just as difficult legislatively as passing healthcare was, so just think of how hard that was. Republicans would need 60 pro-repeal votes in the Senate to defeat a Democratic filibuster. And remember, they'd need a President who wouldn't veto the bill (i.e. not Obama or any Democrat).
But even that's putting too fine a point on it. Here's the real story, and it gets down to the fact that this new bureaucratic superstructure is now permanently ossified into our federal government.
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So many are busy, busy, busy putting that air of inevitability into place.
History is made every day as it was last night with this socialist coup. It can and will be repealed.
I agree. I am under the understanding that you can cut the funding for this and therefore stop the implementation of a lot of this. I think there are some things that can be kept, and other things can be severely ammended to the point of non-existance. So, it won’t be “repeal”, it will be more like “re-do”. I think they can get rid of a lot of this garbage by limiting it, or even turning it back with new legistlation. But before anything is done, I think that everyone should be clear on what is in this bill so as to make the case for such a thing being done. It needs to be well documented what this thing actually represents, so that the Dems cannot lie about all the wonderful things (lies) that the republicans are keeping from them.
Thatcher, in a country far more socialist than this, privatized about 2/3s of the economy. No, it wasn’t the same thing as removing benefits, but there is a way to do this and it must be done.
As a Pessimist (not to meention realist), of course I tend to agree.
But then again, did anyone ver think welfare reform was possible?
How about deregulation of trucking or the airlines?
It ~can~ happen. But it will take a wholesale change in the composition of Washinton.
No truer words were ever spoken.
The same arguments were made about McCain/Feingold. It’s there in name only. The guts of it have been taken out and done away with. That’s why Obama wants the Congress to consider a new bill because the old one is effectively gone.
What the Democrats have done is create a firestorm. Leading up to this vote, the Democrats have created more conservatives than the Republicans could have ever hoped to. Now that its enacted and people will be directly affected by it. Seniors losing Medicare benefits, lower income people losing their jobs over this, they will create even more conservatives. People are involved like never before. This health care crap has changed the whole political paradigm as we knew it before and the old rules don’t apply. They have attempted to govern against the wishes of the American people. The American people will not stand for it. This will utltimately be gutted.
This is too defeatist. It CAN be repealed by sections and gutted with a GOP Congress and President.
No the states will nullify it or a court will.
We are going to have to come up with a name for the hopeless people....hopelessers?
I guess that’s what George Washington said in Valley Forge. I can’t believe this defeatism. The bill may not actually be repealed, but it can be substantially weakened through piecemeal legislation after 2013. Increasing tax exempt MSAs, private contacting, rescinding the taxes are popular measures that be passed.
We will have a day of reckoning with the budget otherwise. And when we do reach the witching hour, this health care bill will not even matter, it will be a worthless promise. I doubt this health care bill will ultimately withstand a violent revolution, because that is more likely than some seamless transition to Euro-socialism.
I agree with this 100%.
Republicans are what? POLITICIANS!
What does this bill do? It creates a government structure for more political favors and jobs. Do you honestly think that politicians will limit their job prospects?
Impossible? No.
Unless this monstrosity is either repealed or killed in the Courts, it will set a precedent for marching America down the road towards Marx and Engels and Obama knows that - its his ultimate goal.
The Bill MUST be repealed and rhetoric like this is foolish and suicidal with respect to our national purpose, unless the author of this piece agrees with Obama. But I know nothing about the author.
Benefits CAN be dealt with by “grandfathering” in any people who are actually “benefited” - and I think the bill itself only becomes effective in a few years.
Most Americans realize the “benefits” of this thing are outweighed by the problems and new replacement bill which corrects those things which need correction, while eliminating the socialist poison the Democrats added, is very feasible.
And the GOP had better do just that or find themselves without a constituency.
“At some point the money has to run out.”
And at this rate it won’t take long at all.
“One good thing about the bill is the taxes and penalties start right away but the benefits dont start until 2114.
It could be repealed in 2112 if Chairman O is defeated”
Oh crap, 0 is going to be an office another 100 years? He’s the new Castro
It's the truth. When has the GOP ever repealed any entitlement? It has NEVER HAPPENED.
Scorched Earth Politics. Nothing gets passed - nothing - until HCR is repealed. No budgets, nothing. Show the Left what harball really is.
hopelosers?
Politicians have been stomping all over the Constitution for eons!
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